Hi Niclas, It is clear and very helpful to guide us about our following steps,
Thanks Gary On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 3:24 AM Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Board is always positive to reinstate a working PMC, so if you can line up > 3 willing PMC members, then the Board is happy to see it happen. > > If the existing PMC Chair is still active, the role has the mandate to add > the PMC Member(s) needed without a PMC vote and simply refer to the > situation of why a vote is missing when notifying Board of the changes to > the PMC. > > If the PMC Chair is not active anymore and not able/willing to help reboot > the PMC, then the Board need a resolution for change of PMC Chair. Once > that is done, then the PMC Chair can add the new/extra PMC Members as > mentioned above. > > > Hope that helps > Niclas > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 10:20 Kevin Ratnasekera <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Zhao, >> >> I will be able to allocate some time over the weekend, I am based in Sri >> Lanka ( IST time ) so I am thinking whether it will work for others. Just >> let me know what works best for you/others. >> >> I second what Dave mentioned, these need discussed on public threads and >> have some visibility over it. I have also noticed people replying to this >> email thread. Maybe we can encourage them to involve in these plans and >> join them in contributing to the project. >> >> I also want to seek advice from the board as well, specifically on moving >> forward, since there are no 3 PMC members active to even elect a single >> external contributor. I would like to know the board process to >> reconstitute an active PMC with at least three members in cases such as >> this. >> >> Regards >> Kevin >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:55 AM Yanhui ZHAO <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Kevin and folks >>> >>> Do you have time for a sync meeting over the weekend to discuss project >>> planning and roadmap? >>> >>> Considering people may live in different time zone so please share the >>> time you prefer so that we can best coordinate. >>> >>> Thanks and talk to you soon! >>> >>> Yanhui >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Kevin Ratnasekera <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 4, 2020 2:03 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] < >>> [email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [VOTE] Apache Mnemonic retirement >>> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I have worked with Gang in the past, I have contributed to Apache >>> Mnemonic during the past year. [1] I also noticed my contributions were >>> recognized and proposed me as a committer to the project. [2] I was also a >>> bit discouraged by the lack of activity by Mnemonic PMC except Gang, I >>> couldn't continue my usual contributions. >>> >>> -1 from my end, I would also like to see this project moving forward >>> with a plan mentioned. Zhao, Gang I would like to volunteer, if you need >>> help from my end and couldn't find help from a 3rd member. >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/mnemonic/commits?author=djkevincr >>> [2] >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/508a6710cd60320a8ffbc2035fd154cfbfa1fadc23320456afd11578%40%3Cprivate.mnemonic.apache.org%3E >>> >>> Regards >>> Kevin >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 1:05 AM Yanhui ZHAO <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> This is Yanhui Zhao and I am a PMC member. After last ROLL Call I have >>> been connecting with Gang through weekly meetings regarding the roadmap of >>> Mnemonic for our next steps, and we are drafting some topics including but >>> not limited information below. After finalizing the priorities list we will >>> send it out for the community reviews. >>> >>> >>> >>> As we are moving forward we hope a third current PMC member to work with >>> us. If no current PMC volunteers, we hope to absorb new PMC member if >>> possible to keep the project moving forward. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please take this as my -1 vote with the reasoning above, thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> BR >>> >>> >>> >>> Yanhui Zhao >>> >>> >>> >>> === >>> >>> Project goal: >>> >>> To deliver a pre-product durable object model library working with >>> persistent memory and high performance storage at the end of next year. >>> >>> >>> >>> Project objectives >>> >>> 1) A stable and efficient CI system >>> >>> 2) A improved documentation and website >>> >>> 3) Integrated with Bytebuddy >>> >>> 4) Supporting JDK14 and leveraging the feature of non-volatile mapped >>> byte buffers (incubator) >>> >>> 5) Adding Redis as one of backend of durable object >>> >>> 6) Verified code quality and testing >>> >>> >>> >>> Highlights key values of our project is (1) provide unified interface >>> for storage(memory) backend, (2) remove se-des process to improve the >>> access speed thus improving read/write performance >>> >>> >>> >>> Project Milestones >>> >>> 1) Dec. 2020, CI documentation and website (v0.14.0) >>> >>> 2) May. 2021, Bytebuddy and JDK14 (v0.15.0) >>> >>> 3) Oct. 2020, Redis backend and quality (v0.16.0) >>> >>> >>> >>> Project Communication >>> >>> 1) Weekly regular meeting 30mins - 60 mins >>> >>> 2) Event based release meeting >>> >>> 3) Reporting meeting >>> >>> 4) Maillist, Jira, PR based discussion >>> >>> 5) Management meeting on demand >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Craig Russell <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2020 3:10 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* Apache Board <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Mnemonic retirement >>> >>> Dear members of the Mnemonic Community, >>> >>> tl;dr please reply to this message. >>> >>> [ ] +1 retire the Mnemonic project >>> [ ] -1 do not retire the Mnemonic project because... >>> >>> I am getting in touch with the Mnemonic community members in regard to >>> the health of the project. >>> >>> There appears to be some work being done but almost all of the activity >>> in the last several months is from just one person. The most recent board >>> report states that one PMC member left in August 2020 but I was unable to >>> find any evidence of this event. >>> >>> As projects mature, they will naturally reach a point where activity >>> reduces to a level such that the project is no longer sustainable. At >>> Apache, projects reach this stage when there are not at least 3 active PMC >>> members providing oversight. Projects that reach this stage are usually >>> placed in the Attic [1] or absorbed by another Apache project willing to >>> manage its releases. >>> >>> On the other hand, if your project has very low activity for good >>> reasons and has at least three active PMC members willing to perform >>> oversight, it can remain an Apache project so long as the Board is properly >>> informed and the project remains open and welcoming to new contributors. >>> >>> There was a ROLL CALL last month to which only one PMC member responded. >>> >>> At this time, I am requesting a formal VOTE of the Apache Mnemonic >>> community. If you feel that this project is still viable, and able to >>> reconstitute an active PMC with at least three members, please respond to >>> this message accordingly. If you are a member of the PMC but have moved on >>> or are no longer able to participate, please tell us so that the project's >>> status is clear. Failure to respond will indicate a lack of interest in >>> oversight. >>> >>> Please don't take this message as a criticism of the project or its >>> current chair. This is an expected event in the timeline of many open >>> source projects, and sometimes results in a renewed interest from the >>> development community. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Craig >>> Director, The Apache Software Foundation >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>> >>> >>> [1] https://attic.apache.org/ <https://attic.apache.org/> >>> >>> >>>
