On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 20:58 +0100, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2008 8:48 PM, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > copied from http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes :
> >
> >  ... Releases may not be vetoed. ...
> >
> > To my understanding of this text the release manager just needs three
> > +1 votes to release, even if there are -1 votes also. And as i wrote,
> > this was not meant as a veto.
> 
> yep. even 10 -1 votes. No veto.
> It is up to the release mgr.

That's quite insane IMO, and I have no idea why it was written that way.

The role of a PMC is to supervise the development and release of source
code by a project. If it (ie a majority of PMC members) cannot block a
release, then it cannot fulfil the purpose for which it was created.

For the sake of project harmony, no decision should be pushed through
even against the wishes of a significant minority of PMC members. Even
the opposition of a significant number of non-pmc members should be of
serious concern; open-source is fuelled mostly by goodwill.

Of course all this is well understood already; I'm sure no ASF committer
would even consider pushing through a release against opposition. But it
sure is odd that the referenced page would say it is possible. I wonder
why...

BTW, all this is not relevant in this particular case, as this -1 is
clearly marked as "dislike but not veto".

Regards,
Simon

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