> > yep. even 10 -1 votes. No veto.
> > It is up to the release mgr.
>
> That's quite insane IMO, and I have no idea why it was written that way.

I don't know, I guess you have to discuss that at a "higher" level
(meaning board)

>
> The role of a PMC is to supervise the development and release of source
> code by a project. If it (ie a majority of PMC members) cannot block a
> release, then it cannot fulfil the purpose for which it was created.

a good release manager would see for sure that there are several (major)
reason why so many folks voted -1 and just simple skip the release.
I think that is a way how a intact community works (or should work).
No ego, like "*I* pushed this release!"

>
> For the sake of project harmony, no decision should be pushed through
> even against the wishes of a significant minority of PMC members. Even
> the opposition of a significant number of non-pmc members should be of
> serious concern; open-source is fuelled mostly by goodwill.

yep, see above.
I can see some very very minor points, like "the index.html of TLDOC
has three typos"
:) but inside an intact community that wouldn't be the reason to vote -1...

>
> Of course all this is well understood already; I'm sure no ASF committer
> would even consider pushing through a release against opposition. But it
> sure is odd that the referenced page would say it is possible. I wonder
> why...

we never really had many -1 votes on releases. When ever there were -1 votes,
every release mgr was addressing them. IMO this community is pretty
healthy (intact).

-M

> BTW, all this is not relevant in this particular case, as this -1 is
> clearly marked as "dislike but not veto".
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
>



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