ok,
I think this all is very confusing now
(due to mixing name and acceptance votes).

So, I am +1 on getting the project to commons and I don't care about
the name :-)

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Gerhard Petracek
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello matthias,
>
> due to the fact that most voted for commons-[new name] let's start/reanimate
> the commons module itself.
> we will see if it will work for sev-en or not.
>
> so i would suggest to finish the vote.
>  the result (without counting the single votes): let's start sev-en as
> commons-[new name]
>
> however, currently we are thinking about a new name [1].
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> [1] http://www.nabble.com/new-name-for-sev-en-to16866739.html
>
>
>
> 2008/4/26 Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> >
> > > @commons-[new name]:
> > > i had some main doubts.
> > > matthias and i talked about them and after our talk i've got a better
> > > impression.
> > >
> > >  however, before i'll agree i would like to see clarifications and some
> > > improvements of the current situation of the commons module.
> >
> > so? what's the problem with the commons module?
> >
> > -M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/4/22 Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Sure, that's okay for the location of  seven.
> > > >
> > > > most committers voted for that ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My other concern is how sev-en will play with jsr 303.
> > > >
> > > > IMO it should be possible to get that working (as an impl?) as well
> > > >
> > > > -M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cagatay
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Cagatay,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about the commons project. MyFaces Commons Utils and MyFaces
> > > Commons
> > > > > Configurators don't render anyting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cagatay Civici wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My mind hasn't changed since the last discussion so it's still
> -1
> > > for a
> > > > > stand-alone project because in my opinion every goodie, extension
> > > etc...)
> > > > > that doesn't render anything should join orchestra.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We might end up with a subproject hell that's hard to maintain
> if we
> > > > > create a subproject for each jsf extension.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Orchestra core15 module is a nice place for sev-en.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cagatay
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Werner Punz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Ok Gerhard my apologies then if all of this is discussed out
> > > > > > >    then a clear +1
> > > > > > >    from my side.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Werner
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >        hello werner,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >        thank you for your additional hint.
> > > > > > >        however, we already discussed this topic and there are
> > > several
> > > > > > >        arguments against the integration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >        this vote is just about sev-en as a stand-alone
> sub-project
> > > of
> > > > > > >        myfaces.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >        (aspect-el is a different topic. so let's have a
> separated
> > > vote.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >        regards,
> > > > > > >        gerhard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >        2008/4/20, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >           +1 but one addition
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >           since we already have an extension api project
> > > > > > >           wouldnt it be better to be integrated into orchestra
> > > > > > >           I think since orchestra is not a scope project
> although
> > > > > > >           its main area is scoping that sev-en should belong in
> > > there.
> > > > > > >           Think about that, I think orchestra might be the
> perfect
> > > place
> > > > > > >           for things like sev-en and/or aspect-el
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >           Werner
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >           Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               as requested i published the source code of the
> sev-en
> > > > > > >        preview
> > > > > > >               some days ago (details at: [1]).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               we discussed whether or not we should start a new
> > > myfaces
> > > > > > >               sub-project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               so let's vote!
> > > > > > >               (there will be a separated discussion + vote
> > > concerning
> > > > > > >        the name.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >               [ ] +1 for: sev-en should become a myfaces
> sub-project
> > > > > > >               [ ] +0
> > > > > > >               [ ] -1 for: sev-en shouldn't become a myfaces
> > > sub-project
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               regards,
> > > > > > >               gerhard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               [1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.nabble.com/-proposal--jsf-validation-with-annotations-to16483341.html#a16747103
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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