Hi,
seems this is more like a discussion where to place it than a vote :-)
-1 as a new top-level sub project
+1 as a new myfaces-commons sub project (myfaces-commons-<newName>)
Regards,
Volker
2008/4/21, Bernd Bohmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> -1 as a new sub-project
> +1 included in commons
>
> Regards
>
> Bernd
>
> Andrew Robinson schrieb:
>
> > +0.5 to the code
> > -0.9 as a new top level project. I really would prefer to see this in
> > commons or orchestra as the MyFaces project is already confusing at
> > first to users due to the number of top level projects.
> >
> > Also, what is up with the name? It doesn't seem to relate to what it does.
> >
> > Also has there been any thought on how this will play with existing
> > Hibernate applications and how compatible it is if the bean validation
> > framework JSR goes through as something pretty similar to what
> > Hibernate already has?
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Leonardo Uribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> +1
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> Leonardo Uribe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Gerhard Petracek
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> hello cagatay,
> >>>
> >>> you would still benefit in the cases you mentioned, if there would be an
> >> optional cross-component client-side validation support.
> >>> -> in such a case we wouldn't reinvent the wheel.
> >>> + complex client-side validation would be independent of the component
> lib
> >> you are using.
> >>> however, client-side sev-en validation isn't implemented at the moment
> >>> (and it isn't clear, if there will be such a feature. there will be a
> >> separated discussion about such topics).
> >>> it was just a question in view of your orchestra comment.
> >>> -> so let's just continue the vote. (thank you for attending the vote - i
> >> noticed: your position hasn't changed so far.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>> gerhard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2008/4/20, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> in the near future i'll think about client side validation support.
> >>>> Sorry but no:) This is what I'm talking about actually, every subproject
> >> has the potential of reinventing the wheel and overlap with already
> >> implemented features in other myfaces subprojects.
> >>>> Trinidad has it;
> >>>>
> >> http://www.irian.at/trinidad-demo/faces/convertValidate/clientConvert.jspx
> >>>> Tomahawk Sandbox has it;
> >>>> http://www.irian.at/myfaces-sandbox/clientValidationWithStandardForm.jsf
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Cagatay
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Gerhard Petracek
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> hello cagatay,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> in the near future i'll think about client side validation support.
> >>>>> -> does this change your opinion?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2008/4/20, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My mind hasn't changed since the last discussion so it's still -1
> >> for a stand-alone project because in my opinion every goodie, extension
> >> etc...) that doesn't render anything should join orchestra.
> >>>>>> We might end up with a subproject hell that's hard to maintain if we
> >> create a subproject for each jsf extension.
> >>>>>> Orchestra core15 module is a nice place for sev-en.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cagatay
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Werner Punz
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Ok Gerhard my apologies then if all of this is discussed out
> >>>>>>> then a clear +1
> >>>>>>> from my side.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Werner
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> hello werner,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> thank you for your additional hint.
> >>>>>>>> however, we already discussed this topic and there are several
> >> arguments against the integration.
> >>>>>>>> this vote is just about sev-en as a stand-alone sub-project of
> >> myfaces.
> >>>>>>>> (aspect-el is a different topic. so let's have a separated
> >> vote.)
> >>>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2008/4/20, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +1 but one addition
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> since we already have an extension api project
> >>>>>>>> wouldnt it be better to be integrated into orchestra
> >>>>>>>> I think since orchestra is not a scope project although
> >>>>>>>> its main area is scoping that sev-en should belong in there.
> >>>>>>>> Think about that, I think orchestra might be the perfect
> >> place
> >>>>>>>> for things like sev-en and/or aspect-el
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Werner
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> hello,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> as requested i published the source code of the sev-en
> >> preview
> >>>>>>>> some days ago (details at: [1]).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> we discussed whether or not we should start a new myfaces
> >>>>>>>> sub-project.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> so let's vote!
> >>>>>>>> (there will be a separated discussion + vote concerning
> >> the name.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> [ ] +1 for: sev-en should become a myfaces sub-project
> >>>>>>>> [ ] +0
> >>>>>>>> [ ] -1 for: sev-en shouldn't become a myfaces sub-project
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/-proposal--jsf-validation-with-annotations-to16483341.html#a16747103
> >>>>>>>>
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