-1 as a new sub-project
+1 included in commons.

Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
-1 as a new sub-project
+1 included in commons


On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Bernd Bohmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-1 as a new sub-project
 +1 included in commons

 Regards

 Bernd

 Andrew Robinson schrieb:


+0.5 to the code
 > -0.9 as a new top level project. I really would prefer to see this in
 > commons or orchestra as the MyFaces project is already confusing at
 > first to users due to the number of top level projects.
 >
 > Also, what is up with the name? It doesn't seem to relate to what it does.
 >
 > Also has there been any thought on how this will play with existing
 > Hibernate applications and how compatible it is if the bean validation
 > framework JSR goes through as something pretty similar to what
 > Hibernate already has?
 >
 > -Andrew
 >
 > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Leonardo Uribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >> +1
 >>
 >> regards
 >>
 >> Leonardo Uribe
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Gerhard Petracek
 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>> hello cagatay,
 >>>
 >>> you would still benefit in the cases you mentioned, if there would be an
 >> optional cross-component client-side validation support.
 >>> -> in such a case we wouldn't reinvent the wheel.
 >>> + complex client-side validation would be independent of the component lib
 >> you are using.
 >>> however, client-side sev-en validation isn't implemented at the moment
 >>> (and it isn't clear, if there will be such a feature. there will be a
 >> separated discussion about such topics).
 >>> it was just a question in view of your orchestra comment.
 >>> -> so let's just continue the vote. (thank you for attending the vote - i
 >> noticed: your position hasn't changed so far.)
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> regards,
 >>> gerhard
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> 2008/4/20, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 >>>> Hi,
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>> in the near future i'll think about client side validation support.
 >>>> Sorry but no:) This is what I'm talking about actually, every subproject
 >> has the potential of reinventing the wheel and overlap with already
 >> implemented features in other myfaces subprojects.
 >>>> Trinidad has it;
 >>>>
 >> http://www.irian.at/trinidad-demo/faces/convertValidate/clientConvert.jspx
 >>>> Tomahawk Sandbox has it;
 >>>> http://www.irian.at/myfaces-sandbox/clientValidationWithStandardForm.jsf
 >>>>
 >>>> Regards,
 >>>>
 >>>> Cagatay
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Gerhard Petracek
 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>>>> hello cagatay,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> in the near future i'll think about client side validation support.
 >>>>> -> does this change your opinion?
 >>>>>
 >>>>> regards,
 >>>>> gerhard
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> 2008/4/20, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> Hi,
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> My mind hasn't changed since the last discussion so it's still -1
 >> for a stand-alone project because in my opinion every goodie, extension
 >> etc...) that doesn't render anything should join orchestra.
 >>>>>> We might end up with a subproject hell that's hard to maintain if we
 >> create a subproject for each jsf extension.
 >>>>>> Orchestra core15 module is a nice place for sev-en.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Cagatay
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Werner Punz
 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>>>>>> Ok Gerhard my apologies then if all of this is discussed out
 >>>>>>> then a clear +1
 >>>>>>> from my side.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Werner
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> hello werner,
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> thank you for your additional hint.
 >>>>>>>> however, we already discussed this topic and there are several
 >> arguments against the integration.
 >>>>>>>> this vote is just about sev-en as a stand-alone sub-project of
 >> myfaces.
 >>>>>>>> (aspect-el is a different topic. so let's have a separated
 >> vote.)
 >>>>>>>> regards,
 >>>>>>>> gerhard
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> 2008/4/20, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>    +1 but one addition
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>    since we already have an extension api project
 >>>>>>>>    wouldnt it be better to be integrated into orchestra
 >>>>>>>>    I think since orchestra is not a scope project although
 >>>>>>>>    its main area is scoping that sev-en should belong in there.
 >>>>>>>>    Think about that, I think orchestra might be the perfect
 >> place
 >>>>>>>>    for things like sev-en and/or aspect-el
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>    Werner
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>    Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>        hello,
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>        as requested i published the source code of the sev-en
 >> preview
 >>>>>>>>        some days ago (details at: [1]).
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>        we discussed whether or not we should start a new myfaces
 >>>>>>>>        sub-project.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>        so let's vote!
 >>>>>>>>        (there will be a separated discussion + vote concerning
 >> the name.)
 >>>>>>>>
 >> 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >>>>>>>>        [ ] +1 for: sev-en should become a myfaces sub-project
 >>>>>>>>        [ ] +0
 >>>>>>>>        [ ] -1 for: sev-en shouldn't become a myfaces sub-project
 >>>>>>>>
 >> 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >>>>>>>>        regards,
 >>>>>>>>        gerhard
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>        [1]
 >>>>>>>>
 >> 
http://www.nabble.com/-proposal--jsf-validation-with-annotations-to16483341.html#a16747103
 >>>>>>>>
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