Andre Schnabel wrote:
Hi Jacueline, all,

first .. thanks for spreading the message.
But ...


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Von: Jacqueline McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: [native-lang] OpenOffice.org 1.1.5 Release Candidate Is Here

OpenOffice.org 1.1.5rc is ready for you to download now.  It's a
release candidate, meaning that it has bugs, and we would like for
you to work with us in finding them and reporting them.


I think we need to be a little more precise with our wording.
I just take wikipedia as reference, as it tells, what most people think,
what a RC is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_candidate#Release_candidate
"The term release candidate can refer to a final product, ready to release
unless fatal bugs emerge. ... for versions that are substantially complete, but still under test, ...
for final testing of versions that are believed to be bug-free, and may go
into production at any time."

This definition works well if there is a finite group working on the release cycle. But here, and with other OSS, everyone has the opportunity to be involved in the progression of the software through its release cycle.

So, at this time, we *know* that our RC is not ready to be released. A
showstopper has been raised yesterday at the releases list. It has already
been marked as fixed, so I'd expect to see a new RC within the next few
days.

Yes, we will, so we will have another one. But don't you think it is better that many more people are able and willing to download and test the "releases that are not yet production" ?

Measured and experienced testers are vital, but end-users that are willing to give it a go are also invaluable as they often do things in a way that is difficult to include in regression and smoke tests.

So .. the problem with the announcement is, that we cannot be shure who ist
testing what RC ...

The files have dates and it is the first rc.

The thing, we have missed is to announce the availabilty of the RC at the QA
project and ask "experienced" people to do the tests. We do have a test
process and protocols, but we do not use it :-(

We have always announced the release candidates widely assuming that the QA team are in the thick of it and the most aware.

Perhaps we can re-visit the process on the QA project list. I really would like to invite more people to join the QA project as I find that when a release is made this is when we have the discussions of "I didn't know it was going to work that way" when it has been progressing that way for months :(

Regards
Jacqueline

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