hello,

On 2005-11-09, at 17:28 , Daniel Carrera wrote:

Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
Novell, for instance, was opposed to the idea. And it makes sense it should be: the current set up benefits Novell.

Novell was not opposed. *Michael Meeks* was opposed. He was not speaking for Novell, and his reasons for opposing were very developer-focused. It was a personal opinion, and I doubt Novell would like it been seen as an official Novel position.

As it happens, Sun, so I have learned, has chosen to interpret Michael's objection as Novell's.


One point I've been thinking is that the overall architecture of this
would be precisely that it would be "within" the OOo overall structure. An analogue would be java.net, which hosts lots of java projects. OOo could thus "include," in a formal and even logical way, the foundation.

Wouldn't that counter the goal of using the Foundation as an opportunity to correct the governance problems in OOo? A foundatino that is an OOo sub project seems distant from what I felt was discussed at Koper.

Perhaps not. Sub project is putting it wrongly. The way that Java.net works, for instance, is that there are many projects present there.

Further, "governance" means many things. As used by me, it does not mean, say, who is present on the Community Council, but how code contributions are processed. The former is pretty transparent-- witness this exchange--the latter less so, if only because there is the coincidence of Sun, as the major contributor, and Sun, as the copyright holder.

Best
Louis

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