Hi Bernhard, Am Tue, 5 Dec 2006 14:31:55 +0100 (MET) schrieb Bernhard Dippold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Charles, > > Charles Schulz schrieb: > > Hello Bernhard, > > > >> I am not sure if this topic is more a developer topic (to be > >> discussed on [EMAIL PROTECTED]) instead of an all community topic, that > >> could be discussed on discuss@openoffice.org with a broader > >> audience. > >> > >> Of course there are more developer subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but my > >> feelings are that [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be used for *any* discussion > >> or decision with effect on major parts of the community. > >> > >> I strongly recommend to subscribe this list to anybody interested > >> in overall community topics - and to post such messages there. > > The discuss list is of course an interesting place. But there may > > be too much noise. > > I know - but how could this be changed? > > We need a central list for general discussions between developers and > non-coders. IMHO neither [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor [EMAIL PROTECTED] suite for > this > purpose as the work there has a different orientation. I agree with you in this point. And I also agree, that flooding the [EMAIL PROTECTED] with non-coding topics isn't a good idea. > > I don't think that it would be a good idea to "mess" (in the eyes of > some developers) [EMAIL PROTECTED] with larger threads like this one on > non-coding topics. In the Germanophone community we had such > discussions leading to conclusions on fundamental questions, but > there was quite a number of people displeased about the "noise" - > even if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a real developer list. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] has the quite rare advantage of being known by > > everybody and not being crowded. > > I doubt if it stays uncrowded, if more of such discussions take part > there. > > > I know that the list does not make up > > for the quality of the discussions, but dev@ has a surprizingly high > > amount of quality discussions (see the discussions on the specs). I > > think we need a broad input of the community but not necessarily the > > input of everybody who may not be familiar with OOo... Yes, I don't think, that the developers will stay on the dev-list, if it's going to be overwhelmed with unrelated topics. > > Right - that's one of the negative aspects of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > What do you think about a new list restricted to people being project > member of any of the OOo projects? Stating clearly that no mails will > be moderated on the list, we could avoid such noise perhaps ... > > I'd propose a name like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something > like that - not quite sure in the moment (it's just a first idea - > not thought about it thoroughly). Normally I would say, "Yes, this is a good idea", but do you really think, that everyone will subscribe to this list? There were thoughts, that there are too many mailinglists, that no-one can monitor all the lists. This was the main concern for missing (important) informations. And now, we create a new list? Don't misinterpret me, I would say, that having such a list, open only for project members, would be a good idea, but I doubt, that the people, already active in any project, will monitor another list. > > > > For discussions on communication and walled gardens, I suggest we > > keep them here, on this list? > > > For walled gardens between N-L project teams this is the right list, > but it doesn't help at all if we find a way to optimize the way of > communication with developers if they don't take part in this > discussion. I don't like the idea of a walled garden in a community project like OOo. In my opinion, a garden is a lot nicer, if it's open and welcoming to everyone. ;) Sigrid --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]