On 10/18/2010 06:50 PM, Christian Lippka wrote: > Hi Charles, > > Am 18.10.2010 17:28, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: >> Le Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:10:44 +0200, >> Pavel Janík<pa...@janik.cz> a écrit : >> >>> >>> On 18.10.2010, at 15:56, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: >>> >>>> Martin: the community is leaving. >>> No no. Charles and co left (or leaving, slowly so the damage to the >>> OOo and the project is bigger...). That's correct. Nothing else. >>> Community didn't left. Community of OpenOffice.org is still here. >> No No No. The community (most of the NLC, not you Pavel, most of the QA >> community, probably most of the Marketing volunteers, the independent >> developers and non Oracle developers (not you Pavel) are moving to the >> Document Foundation. But I accept the term "Charles and co", it's >> somewhat reducing though :-) > > Sorry, but this gets confusing. You are saying you are leaving, but > you say you also stay. > You say you are most of the community (except Oracle and Pavel > obviously) but at > the same time you leave 'the community' no choice because where should > they go > if they do not want to leave with you? Since if they just stay here > they are at the same > position that you are leaving to. Maybe I'm not educated enough in > graph theories but I'm not > sure where you are, where you want to stay and how you can leave > without moving. > > Is it that you leave but stay at the same place and expect Oracle and > Pavel to drift > away? > > Maybe there are drugs that can help me solve this mystery.... no, it's not worth the effort, just put him into ignore mode since he is only trying to provoke us, to be able to tell the story that we are the bad guys throwing him out the council. Instead of following these fruitless threads we should concentrate on the work we have to do, to address the issues and concerns our community has, the work and feedback we get is indeed invaluable and we would be insane if we would not continue to work on this. But I also have respect of those who decided to go their own way and open alternatives. And most of community people are in the comfortable situation to continue to contribute to both projects for a long time before they might be in the need to decide for one of the branches and let the facts decide. But I expect from the leader of the LO efforts not to play kindergarten but to really lead their fork, otherwise they might end in confinement on a lonely island. > > Anyway let me formulate a question, where should the part of the pre > foundation fork > community go that do not like to identify with the foundation? I'm not > talking about Oracle > people here we will do just fine, I'm talking about Pavel and others. > Is it fair from your > side to rob them the name 'OpenOffice.org community' ? > > Why are you not wearing your colors, walk and march under the libre > flag, show it proud (as > you do on press releases and events). > +1 > Regards, > Christian > Martin
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