Hello everyone, I just wanted to clarify things (again). I am going to leave the project / we, the founders of the Document Foundation, are going to leave the project at some given time and have every intention to keep things clear and clean.
But I/we are not going to be thrown out by people who just feel they can get away with zero formality, and zero explanation, and by ignoring our very own guidelines. Is that clear to everyone? I'm not insane, I just want, just like the people from Oracle, a bit of respect. Thanks, Charles. Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:41:03 +0700, Javier Sola <jav...@khmeros.info> a écrit : > > > Speaking as a simple language team leader and community member, the > situation seems to be getting complicated. > > This is not a game for us. We - in Cambodia - have convinced the > government to change to OOo, and we cannot run any risks of not > having a good product tomorrow. > > We still do not know what will happen with LO, and we do not know > what will happen with OOo. Our only choice is to go with both. We are > happy to send our translations to both OOo a LO. > > We are not MOVING to LO, we are ALSO supporting a second initiative, > and plan to stay as part of both communities. > > To me it is a bit confusing -specially now at the beginning - that > the person who has asked me to join the LO project is also the lead > of the OOo NLC. While a good part of the communities will be the > same, it seems logical to me that the leaders should be different > from each other, as they will (naturally) be putting their energy > only into one of the projects. I will be happy to work with Charles > in LO, because we both want it to succeed, and I will be happy > working with Louis in OOo, because we both want it to succeed. > > All the accusation and name calling that are coming out are hurting > both projects, as they tend to reflect negatively more on the > perceptions that others have of the "writer" than of the "target". > > The sooner it stops and the projects work independently, the easier > that it will be to collaborate in the future. > > Cheers, > > Javier > > > > > > > Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > Louis, > > > > > > Le Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:32:28 -0400, > > Louis Suárez-Potts <louis.suarez-po...@oracle.com> a écrit : > > > > > >> All, > >> I have asked that Charles Schulz recuse himself from his role as > >> lead of the NLC category because of the confusion his new role > >> outside of OpenOffice.org would produce in the minds of > >> contributors and users. I have not received an answer, so I must > >> presume one, that he would act with good grace and recognize the > >> impossibility of his dual roles. > > > > > > I am afraid you are presuming the wrong way. > > I am sorry not to have given you an answer earlier publicly, but I > > am not going away. Your takeover of my position is simply not > > right, does not match any of our guidelines and implies a lot of > > nebulous things: confusion with my new role? Please define why my > > new role would confuse the OpenOffice.org community. I think my new > > role is quite clear; the fact that I will eventually leave, on my > > own accord and terms should also be clear. > > > > Louis, I am not employed by Oracle: you cannot "fire" me nor anyone > > like you're trying to do. This is extravagant and outlines a deep > > misunderstanding of community "management". > > > >> As lead I will continue to do what I normally do as the co-lead of > >> the NLC—the admin, policy, outreach—plus the engagement of new > >> members interested in setting up projects in their native language. > >> Only, I'll do this now as Lead of the category. (There is no real > >> apparatus for formal vote here….) > >> > > > > There might not be any, but I'd be interested to know what other > > think about both the legitimity of your move, let alone of its > > legality. > > > > > >> And there is a fair amount that does need to be done, as OOo is > >> gaining enormous momentum around the world and as you, the NLC > >> projects, are elemental to that! > >> > > > > Sorry Louis, no pun intended, but... who are you talking about? > > This is becoming pathetic. > > > > Charles-H. Schulz. > > > > > >> best, > >> Louis > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > >> dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: project_leads-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: project_leads-h...@openoffice.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: project_leads-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: project_leads-h...@openoffice.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
