I'm also ok for this,

I'm working more or less on a fork of the AdHoc Project from Tim Boudreau beacuse I like it in just one view to not switch between them and open any folder as a project of course with some problems. We also had discussion about merging files and projects together what I really prefer but I can understand that this is quite hard but anyway. Renaming I find tricky, because for me it is intuitive enough to have projects and files. I have a friend who created the new NetBeans logo, he is a UX guy maybe we can also ask him for this stuff and for more.

So +1 for me. Services I like too but I think it doesn't need to move to navigator. Services is good also for beginner to see on the first glance beacuse there you have databases.


Cheers

Chris

Am 22.09.2025 um 11:07 schrieb Neil C Smith:
On Sun, 21 Sept 2025 at 15:29, Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> wrote:
Once the first project opens, NB will open the Projects and Files tabs (logical 
and physical
project view as they are called in the implementation, now with tooltips #8786).

I think we should also open the Favorites tab in the same tab group, since it 
serves as
view for non-project based use cases (also #8798 for adding the project dir by 
default).

It might get tight in that tab group since the Services tab is there too, so 
this might
mean that we move it over where the Navigator is, or possibly not open Services
by default?
Massive +1 to replacing Services by Favorites in the default tabs.  As
you probably know, as I've said this to you in at least two other
places recently! :-)

Favorites is becoming more important with the support for project-less
Java files, and we should make it easier for beginners to find.
Getting it to open with first file would be even better.  I can't
remember the last time I used the Services tab for anything, and I
don't think it's that useful for initial usage.  Anyone who needs it
probably knows where to find it.

I think the naming is awkward, but we may be stuck with that now?
Ideally Favorites would be called Files or File Browser, and Files
would be called something else.  Something like Projects, Project
Files and File Browser could be something to consider.  It can be
branded in the nb cluster if need be.  Let's not forget that people
find the current naming and purpose of the various tabs confusing -
eg. https://github.com/apache/netbeans/discussions/6387 and various
other posts over the years.

Best wishes,

Neil

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