Mark,

It might be a bit of both, or at lease use the NetCat process as their
first foray into working on an OS project like NetBeans.

Some of us even provide fixes for defects we noticed, fix tutorials etc...

For example, I'm, not a committer, but I do try to take part in the
NetCat process.  Maybe in the future when I start giving more to the
community/project I'll be voted in as a committer.

Regards

John



On 24 May 2017 at 07:45, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Txs for the figures, Emilian!
>
> One more question:
> Are the NetCAT testers candidats for becomming future comitters?
> Or are they 'just' interested in testing?
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>> Am 23.05.2017 um 22:34 schrieb Emilian Bold <[email protected]>:
>>
>> NetCAT folks would probably be a good fit for dev@ because they are
>> actively contributing on current development.
>>
>> The only problem is if NetCAT has so much traffic that drowns all other dev@
>> discussions.
>>
>> I see[1] the peak was July 2016 with 225 messages and July 2015 has 317
>> messages. That's probably less than discussion 100 threads and the rest of
>> the months are more quiet.
>>
>> So, it seems to be quite manageable to handle NetCAT on the dev@ mailing
>> list. Especially considering people seem to use [tags] too.
>>
>> PS: I would also make a platform@ mailing list. Previous discussions
>> mentioned we should try to stick to users@ and dev@ and move Platform
>> discussions into users@ which I find more odd compared to having NetCAT on
>> dev@.
>>
>> 1. https://netbeans.org/projects/www/lists/netcat/archive
>>
>>
>> --emi
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Wade Chandler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Netcat is a specific and special program allowing non-commiters to be
>>> extremely helpful contributors, which has been successful for well over a
>>> decade. This is just helping transition this process here:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetCAT
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> On May 23, 2017 8:36 AM, "Mark Struberg" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Geertjan!
>>>>
>>>> Technically that's as easy as creating an INFRA ticket.
>>>>
>>>> But note that such things first need consensus among the PMC.
>>>> The Apache way would be to create a [DISCUSS] mail thread.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that there will be sufficient traffic on this list?
>>>> I'm usually reluctant  to introduce lists and resources upfront. I'd only
>>>> do it once we get proper traffic.
>>>> Do you mind to share the amount of traffic you expect?
>>>> Ofc the amount of traffic is only one possible criterium.
>>>> Setting up the mailing lists is rather cheap, but getting the community
>>> to
>>>> the lists is often much more work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> txs and LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 22.05.2017 um 12:24 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, especially mentors,
>>>>>
>>>>> We'd like to set up a new mailing list for NetCAT (the NetBeans
>>> Community
>>>>> Acceptance Testing team), so that as soon as the 1st code donation is
>>>> done,
>>>>> constituting a Java SE distro of NetBeans IDE, including Java 9
>>> features,
>>>>> the NetCAT program can start.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's always a subset of the NetBeans community that verifies new
>>>>> NetBeans releases. Under Apache, that process is different, i.e., the
>>>> final
>>>>> approval of a release in the incubator is done by the IPMC (i.e., the
>>>>> Apache incubator team) and once we're a top level project will be done
>>> by
>>>>> the PMC (i.e., the Apache NetBeans committers).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, not everyone is actually going to be doing the final testing
>>>> steps
>>>>> of NetBeans, that's going to continue under Apache -- and hence we'd
>>>> like a
>>>>> specific mailing list for this subset of the NetBeans community.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the steps to request this mail alias?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>



-- 
John

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