And now with the chart. :)

Apologies,
-Jirka

Dne 24.5.2017 v 09:22 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a):
Emilian is right that typically the traffic is high in the beginning. This can result in getting between 20 - 50 mails daily with purely NetCAT related content. Please see attached chart with e-mail traffic during NetCAT 8.1 program.

Secondly, having a separate mailing list helps monitoring the traffic and producing exactly charts like the one attached. Mixing NetCAT communication with other stuff via dev@ list will not work, because people never got used to prefixing subjects of their e-mails. Due to this it will be more difficult to recognize best NetCAT contributors at the end of the programs.

-Jirka

Dne 23.5.2017 v 22:34 Emilian Bold napsal(a):

NetCAT folks would probably be a good fit for dev@ because they are
actively contributing on current development.

The only problem is if NetCAT has so much traffic that drowns all other dev@
discussions.

I see[1] the peak was July 2016 with 225 messages and July 2015 has 317
messages. That's probably less than discussion 100 threads and the rest of
the months are more quiet.

So, it seems to be quite manageable to handle NetCAT on the dev@ mailing
list. Especially considering people seem to use [tags] too.

PS: I would also make a platform@ mailing list. Previous discussions
mentioned we should try to stick to users@ and dev@ and move Platform
discussions into users@ which I find more odd compared to having NetCAT on
dev@.

1. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_projects_www_lists_netcat_archive&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NxMYFmB8Gvldr-qO4gn-fwA4SrsF-dY1CIXawS100MA&s=WTmG5BwrWCnGwglW8cw0lCw4AboaVPvgigT9U9oc2D8&e=


--emi

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Wade Chandler <[email protected]>
wrote:

Netcat is a specific and special program allowing non-commiters to be
extremely helpful contributors, which has been successful for well over a
decade. This is just helping transition this process here:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wiki.netbeans.org_NetCAT&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NxMYFmB8Gvldr-qO4gn-fwA4SrsF-dY1CIXawS100MA&s=i9LpYyOEqmDz4GW-zFFBWjWDzfMlM4T66DA24YnVZFM&e=

Wade

On May 23, 2017 8:36 AM, "Mark Struberg" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi Geertjan!

Technically that's as easy as creating an INFRA ticket.

But note that such things first need consensus among the PMC.
The Apache way would be to create a [DISCUSS] mail thread.

Do you think that there will be sufficient traffic on this list?
I'm usually reluctant to introduce lists and resources upfront. I'd only
do it once we get proper traffic.
Do you mind to share the amount of traffic you expect?
Ofc the amount of traffic is only one possible criterium.
Setting up the mailing lists is rather cheap, but getting the community
to
the lists is often much more work.


txs and LieGrue,
strub



Am 22.05.2017 um 12:24 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga <
[email protected]>:

Hi all, especially mentors,

We'd like to set up a new mailing list for NetCAT (the NetBeans
Community
Acceptance Testing team), so that as soon as the 1st code donation is
done,
constituting a Java SE distro of NetBeans IDE, including Java 9
features,
the NetCAT program can start.

There's always a subset of the NetBeans community that verifies new
NetBeans releases. Under Apache, that process is different, i.e., the
final
approval of a release in the incubator is done by the IPMC (i.e., the
Apache incubator team) and once we're a top level project will be done
by
the PMC (i.e., the Apache NetBeans committers).

However, not everyone is actually going to be doing the final testing
steps
of NetBeans, that's going to continue under Apache -- and hence we'd
like a
specific mailing list for this subset of the NetBeans community.

What are the steps to request this mail alias?

Thanks,

Geertjan




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