OK, I think we have all the info we need -- I'm going to put the IPMC vote
thread together.

Gj

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jaroslav Tulach <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Isn't the solution to write to the README.md (maybe just next time) that
> one has to:
>
> ./platform/lib/nbexec --userdir /tmp/testuserdir
>
> (if that works on all platforms)?
> -jt
>
>
> 2017-11-15 15:23 GMT+01:00 Geertjan Wielenga <
> [email protected]>:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > My personal opinion: seems the main issue here is that the nbexec
> expects
> > > to get userdir (and cache dir) from the product/application launcher.
> If
> > > that's good or bad, that I guess is a question to NetBeans Platform
> > > architects, but this (as far as I can tell) is not really anything new
> in
> > > this release. But to me personally, if one can create a platform
> > > application, and that application will run, the current state does not
> > seem
> > > too terrible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Exactly -- and this was my original point: does it matter whether or not
> > the NetBeans Platform starts, so long as applications built on top of it
> > can start?
> >
> > But also, I'm concerned that when we go to the IPMC with a vote thread,
> one
> > of them is going to have a problem starting the NetBeans Platform for the
> > reasons encountered by Chris and Emilian and then the release will be
> > rejected.
> >
> > So, what's the solution?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > AFAIK we are talking about an alpha release, about thing that
> > > probably exists for a long time and if that does not affect
> applications
> > > based on the platform, is it really a show stopper.
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Jaroslav Tulach <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, the question would be why it is useful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And what does it prove -- and is it a requirement for release.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > What does it show if the launcher isn't working? That you cannot
> start
> > > > platform!
> > > >
> > > > When I wrote the installation proposal
> > > > https://platform.netbeans.org/articles/installation.html I described
> > > that
> > > > nbexec shall be there and shall be used to launch the platform. I
> don't
> > > > think much changed since then.
> > > >
> > > > Releasing something without a way to start it doesn't make it very
> > > useful,
> > > > in my opinion. My 2 Kč
> > > > -jt
> > > >
> > > >  > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jaroslav Tulach <
> > > >
> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> 2017-11-14 20:32 GMT+01:00 Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > >> [email protected]
> > > > > >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
> > > ');>>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Calling the exe doesn’t really make sense. Who/why would one
> do
> > > > this.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Why it doesn't make sense? Calling platform/lib/nbexec.exe shall
> > > start
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> platform. Calling platform/lib/nbexec does so on Unix.
> > > > > >> -jt
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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