Before we go to the IPMC vote, there's another question that needs an answer by Jaroslav Tulach above: "Shouldn't the name of the ZIP start with "incubating" ? I think that is a requirement somewhere in the release documents."
Gj On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < [email protected]> wrote: > OK, I think we have all the info we need -- I'm going to put the IPMC vote > thread together. > > Gj > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jaroslav Tulach < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Isn't the solution to write to the README.md (maybe just next time) that >> one has to: >> >> ./platform/lib/nbexec --userdir /tmp/testuserdir >> >> (if that works on all platforms)? >> -jt >> >> >> 2017-11-15 15:23 GMT+01:00 Geertjan Wielenga < >> [email protected]>: >> >> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > My personal opinion: seems the main issue here is that the nbexec >> expects >> > > to get userdir (and cache dir) from the product/application launcher. >> If >> > > that's good or bad, that I guess is a question to NetBeans Platform >> > > architects, but this (as far as I can tell) is not really anything >> new in >> > > this release. But to me personally, if one can create a platform >> > > application, and that application will run, the current state does not >> > seem >> > > too terrible. >> > >> > >> > >> > Exactly -- and this was my original point: does it matter whether or not >> > the NetBeans Platform starts, so long as applications built on top of it >> > can start? >> > >> > But also, I'm concerned that when we go to the IPMC with a vote thread, >> one >> > of them is going to have a problem starting the NetBeans Platform for >> the >> > reasons encountered by Chris and Emilian and then the release will be >> > rejected. >> > >> > So, what's the solution? >> > >> > Gj >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > AFAIK we are talking about an alpha release, about thing that >> > > probably exists for a long time and if that does not affect >> applications >> > > based on the platform, is it really a show stopper. >> > > >> > > Jan >> > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Jaroslav Tulach < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > > On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Geertjan Wielenga < >> > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Well, the question would be why it is useful. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > And what does it prove -- and is it a requirement for release. >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > What does it show if the launcher isn't working? That you cannot >> start >> > > > platform! >> > > > >> > > > When I wrote the installation proposal >> > > > https://platform.netbeans.org/articles/installation.html I >> described >> > > that >> > > > nbexec shall be there and shall be used to launch the platform. I >> don't >> > > > think much changed since then. >> > > > >> > > > Releasing something without a way to start it doesn't make it very >> > > useful, >> > > > in my opinion. My 2 Kč >> > > > -jt >> > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jaroslav Tulach < >> > > > >> > > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> 2017-11-14 20:32 GMT+01:00 Geertjan Wielenga < >> > > > > >> [email protected] >> > > > > >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] >> > > ');>>: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Calling the exe doesn’t really make sense. Who/why would one >> do >> > > > this. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Why it doesn't make sense? Calling platform/lib/nbexec.exe >> shall >> > > start >> > > > > the >> > > > > >> platform. Calling platform/lib/nbexec does so on Unix. >> > > > > >> -jt >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >
