The email looks good.  The end of an era for sure...but just the beginning of a 
new one. 


Josh Juneau

> On Nov 26, 2017, at 4:19 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Here is the e-mail that will be sent out during this week, to all the @
> netbeans.org mailing lists, with the edits and additions provided in this
> thread incorporated into it:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/[email protected]+mailing+lists
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Ate Douma <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please add wording that users migrating to the users@ or dev@ list
>>> should *subscribe* to those lists by sending an empty email to
>>> [email protected] or [email protected]
>>> otherwise we (moderators) will get swamped...
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good point, thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Maybe also helpful to remark that you can anonymously browse the mail
>>> archives via https://lists.apache.org/[email protected]
>>> and https://lists.apache.org/[email protected]
>>> 
>>> All this typically is/should be documented already on the website, but
>>> as we don't have any real (ASF) content yet at netbeans.apache.org new
>>> users easily will get lost.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yup. In the meantime, and in addition, this is also listed here:
>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I think the website really needs to get priority attention, also because
>>> otherwise there is no place to communicate and provide the download
>>> links for the current HTML/Java API and upcoming platform releases...
>>> 
>>> Ate
>>> 
>>>> On 2017-11-23 12:06, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> We should, at some stage, put an end to the various netbeans.org mailing
>>>> lists, e.g., [email protected] and the dozen or so other netbeans.org
>>>> mailing lists and ensure that everyone asks questions about NetBeans on
>>>> the
>>>> Apache NetBeans mailing lists instead. Jiri Kovalsky and I, who have
>>>> managed the NetBeans.org mailing lists over the years, propose we send
>>>> the
>>>> following to ALL the netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of next
>>>> week.
>>>> 
>>>> Subject for the mail: “January 1st, 2018: End of @netbeans.org Mailing
>>>> 
>>>>> Lists and Forum"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Text:
>>>>> 
>>>>> “If you’ve been following Oracle's Apache NetBeans donation process,
>>>>> you’ll be aware that a large part of NetBeans is in Apache Git already.
>>>>> You
>>>>> should also be aware that mailing lists are available at Apache for
>>>>> purposes of discussing the development and usage of Apache NetBeans.
>>>>> 
>>>>> By means of this e-mail, we’re letting you know that as of January 1st,
>>>>> 2018, the @netbeans.org mailing lists will be deleted (they are
>>>>> archived
>>>>> at netbeans.markmail.org), all references to @netbeans.org will, where
>>>>> possible, be replaced with references to Apache NetBeans mailing lists,
>>>>> and
>>>>> everyone will need to manually move to the Apache NetBeans @dev (
>>>>> [email protected]) and Apache NetBeans @user (
>>>>> [email protected]) mailing lists.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone asking questions about the usage of NetBeans, whether for Java,
>>>>> JavaScript, C/C++, or any other language or technology, as well as those
>>>>> using the NetBeans APIs for developing modules and applications, will
>>>>> use
>>>>> the Apache NetBeans @user mailing list. If and when it turns out that
>>>>> too
>>>>> many developers of one category dominate the @user mailing list, a
>>>>> separate
>>>>> Apache NetBeans mailing list will be created for them. The Apache
>>>>> NetBeans
>>>>> @dev mailing list is specifically for those committed to working on the
>>>>> development of Apache NetBeans itself, as well as those committed to
>>>>> promoting and documenting it, via events and tutorials, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that we will be discontinuing the web forums, i.e.,
>>>>> forums.netbeans.org, and that in Apache there is no replacement for
>>>>> that
>>>>> — Apache projects work with mailing lists only.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hoping to see you all on the Apache NetBeans mailing lists, you’re
>>>>> encouraged to move there as soon as possible and to not write to the @
>>>>> netbeans.org mailing lists anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Geertjan & Jirka
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Feedback/comments welcome. We'd like to send the above to all the @
>>>> netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of next week.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Gj and Jirka
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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