On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Christian Lenz <[email protected]> wrote:
> IMHO it would be better to Keep the Mailing list until everyone or at > least we, migrated all or most of the tickets from bugzilla to JIRA, > because the users from the Mailing lists, gets notifications for changes in > the tickets. > I think we should keep the discussion re bug tracker separate from the mailing list discussion. Gj > > > Cheers > > Chris > > Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10 > > Von: Ludovic HOCHET > Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. November 2017 17:53 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: Ending the @netbeans.org mailing lists. > > The email looks good to me. > By the way, should the README.md "Get in touch" section be adjusted > along the same lines? > (remove the direct mails and point to the archives?) > > On 26 November 2017 at 11:19, Geertjan Wielenga > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Here is the e-mail that will be sent out during this week, to all the @ > > netbeans.org mailing lists, with the edits and additions provided in > this > > thread incorporated into it: > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > [email protected]+mailing+lists > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gj > > > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Ate Douma <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Please add wording that users migrating to the users@ or dev@ list > >>> should *subscribe* to those lists by sending an empty email to > >>> [email protected] or [email protected]. > org > >>> otherwise we (moderators) will get swamped... > >>> > >> > >> > >> Good point, thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Maybe also helpful to remark that you can anonymously browse the mail > >>> archives via https://lists.apache.org/list. > [email protected] > >>> and https://lists.apache.org/[email protected] > >>> > >>> All this typically is/should be documented already on the website, but > >>> as we don't have any real (ASF) content yet at netbeans.apache.org new > >>> users easily will get lost. > >>> > >> > >> > >> Yup. In the meantime, and in addition, this is also listed here: > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate > >> > >> Gj > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> I think the website really needs to get priority attention, also > because > >>> otherwise there is no place to communicate and provide the download > >>> links for the current HTML/Java API and upcoming platform releases... > >>> > >>> Ate > >>> > >>> On 2017-11-23 12:06, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> We should, at some stage, put an end to the various netbeans.org > mailing > >>>> lists, e.g., [email protected] and the dozen or so other > netbeans.org > >>>> mailing lists and ensure that everyone asks questions about NetBeans > on > >>>> the > >>>> Apache NetBeans mailing lists instead. Jiri Kovalsky and I, who have > >>>> managed the NetBeans.org mailing lists over the years, propose we send > >>>> the > >>>> following to ALL the netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of > next > >>>> week. > >>>> > >>>> Subject for the mail: “January 1st, 2018: End of @netbeans.org > Mailing > >>>> > >>>>> Lists and Forum" > >>>>> > >>>>> Text: > >>>>> > >>>>> “If you’ve been following Oracle's Apache NetBeans donation process, > >>>>> you’ll be aware that a large part of NetBeans is in Apache Git > already. > >>>>> You > >>>>> should also be aware that mailing lists are available at Apache for > >>>>> purposes of discussing the development and usage of Apache NetBeans. > >>>>> > >>>>> By means of this e-mail, we’re letting you know that as of January > 1st, > >>>>> 2018, the @netbeans.org mailing lists will be deleted (they are > >>>>> archived > >>>>> at netbeans.markmail.org), all references to @netbeans.org will, > where > >>>>> possible, be replaced with references to Apache NetBeans mailing > lists, > >>>>> and > >>>>> everyone will need to manually move to the Apache NetBeans @dev ( > >>>>> [email protected]) and Apache NetBeans @user ( > >>>>> [email protected]) mailing lists. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Anyone asking questions about the usage of NetBeans, whether for Java, > >>>>> JavaScript, C/C++, or any other language or technology, as well as > those > >>>>> using the NetBeans APIs for developing modules and applications, will > >>>>> use > >>>>> the Apache NetBeans @user mailing list. If and when it turns out that > >>>>> too > >>>>> many developers of one category dominate the @user mailing list, a > >>>>> separate > >>>>> Apache NetBeans mailing list will be created for them. The Apache > >>>>> NetBeans > >>>>> @dev mailing list is specifically for those committed to working on > the > >>>>> development of Apache NetBeans itself, as well as those committed to > >>>>> promoting and documenting it, via events and tutorials, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> Note that we will be discontinuing the web forums, i.e., > >>>>> forums.netbeans.org, and that in Apache there is no replacement for > >>>>> that > >>>>> — Apache projects work with mailing lists only. > >>>>> > >>>>> Hoping to see you all on the Apache NetBeans mailing lists, you’re > >>>>> encouraged to move there as soon as possible and to not write to the > @ > >>>>> netbeans.org mailing lists anymore. > >>>>> > >>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Geertjan & Jirka > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Feedback/comments welcome. We'd like to send the above to all the @ > >>>> netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of next week. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Gj and Jirka > >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > > -- > Ludovic > ----------------------------------------- > > "Les formes qui differencient les etres importent peu > si leur pensees s'unissent pour batir un univers..." > Yoko Tsuno (in 'Les titans' by Roger Leloup) > [The shapes that differenciate beings are not important > if their thoughts unite to build a universe] > >
