That's good. The thing about trademarks is not only that we must
announce it, we must also defend it.

So we must also keep an eye on all the projects popping up that use
the NetBeans trademarks (text and logo).

--emi

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On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We now say, at the bottom of each web page, that
>
> "Apache Incubator, Apache, Apache NetBeans, NetBeans, the Apache feather
> logo, the Apache NetBeans logo, and the Apache Incubator project logo
> are trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation."
>
> Any comments/enhancements welcome.
>
> El 18/01/2019 a las 12:02, Jan Lahoda escribió:
> > FWIW, there's a discussion on legal-discuss that is, I think, related to
> > this thread:
> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201901.mbox/%3CCAK1xzDeKTOEpKED3PzTLuKkbtRi5ubv5AijcB%3DDvzo8PO0jU4w%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> > And there's a link in that thread that may be somewhat relevant as well:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-427?focusedCommentId=16722198&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16722198
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:54 PM Emilian Bold <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Note that the Apache link is about trademarks. It makes no difference if
> >> it's a convenience binary if the trademark is being (mis)used. It could
> >> just be the name or logo.
> >>
> >> --emi
> >>
> >> On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 16:32, Bertrand Delacretaz <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:44 PM Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> ...Frankly, I wonder if there's a chance to allow some "good" uses,
> >> like
> >>> "X
> >>>> with Apache NetBeans N" or a "Bundle of X and Apache NetBeans N",
> >>> provided
> >>>> some basic conditions are met,...
> >>>
> >>> Of course that's possible, as Geertjan says the NetBeans (P)PMC just
> >> needs
> >>> to clarify how things have to be named, to avoid confusion and especially
> >>> as you say make it crystal clear what comes from Apache NetBeans and what
> >>> does not.
> >>>
> >>>> ...this would
> >>>> be distributing an official release of NetBeans, just packed together
> >>> with
> >>>> something else....
> >>>
> >>> If it's binaries then no, it is not distributing an official release
> >>> because releases consist only of source code.
> >>>
> >>> It's redistributing a convenience binary...I think we need to clarify at
> >>> the Apache level this difference, I recently proposed a two-level view on
> >>> releases and convenience binaries [1] which has not made its way to our
> >>> official docs yet but should help understand.
> >>>
> >>> -Bertrand
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/01a64394c3996406d98904256ebdd46667bf73947983722e7ab57f50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>
> >> --
> >> --emi
> >>
> >
>
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