GlassFish version and JDK supported version are defined here : https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/enterprise/glassfish.tooling/src/org/netbeans/modules/glassfish/tooling/server/config/GlassFishV4_1.xml#L28
So In future, once GlassFish will be released with JDK 11 support, *GlassFishV${new_version}.xml* need to be defined with the supported JDK version contract which is loaded by ConfigBuilderProvider <https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/enterprise/glassfish.tooling/src/org/netbeans/modules/glassfish/tooling/server/config/ConfigBuilderProvider.java#L63> . As Payara plugins are fork of GlassFish modules, so I may also contribute to GlassFish related issues. On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 9:07 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > Well, maybe the solution is simple -- we need to spread the message to > users that tools should follow the technologies and not the other way > around, which makes sense in whatever way you look at it. I.e., if your > technology of choice is Java/Jakarta EE, that means you need to deploy to > JDK 8, and that's what you should download. Next, you look around for tools > to support you in development and so you'll download Apache NetBeans -- at > which point you'll already have JDK 8 and so you'll start up with NetBeans > in synch with GlassFish. That should be the way to think especially in > relation to the situation where there's this accelerated release cycle for > Java, which will leave some technologies behind and maybe not prioritizing > keeping up with the latest releases. > > Gj > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 4:25 PM Josh Juneau <juneau...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I just verified under NetBeans 10 that I'm able to compile a Maven-based > > Java EE project under JDK 11 without issues, and deploy to Payara 5 > running > > on JDK 8. So the same issues reside across NetBeans 10 and 11. > > > > In my opinion, I agree that this is problematic. I just deployed this > WAR > > containing a reference to a JDK 11 feature (isBlank()) and it deploys > fine, > > but I receive errors indicating NoSuchMethodError when the server > attempts > > to run the code. The complete newbie is going to be frustrated by this, > no > > doubt. It would be great if NetBeans would flag a project that is set to > > deploy to a Java EE 8 server if the JDK source version is greater than > JDK > > 8. > > > > I've been digging into NetBeans javaee and j2ee modules to try and add > this > > support into the IDE. I will likely not be finished in time for vc2 > > though. > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 9:11 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > All great, but the fact remains that a complete newbie will download > > Apache > > > NetBeans 11 and will probably have whatever the latest JDK is, e.g., > JDK > > > 12, will then put together a 'hello world', will then want to deploy... > > and > > > then discover that an additional JDK is needed, i.e., JDK 8, to start > > > GlassFish. I.e., a complete newbie will most likely be required to have > > two > > > different JDKs -- and most likely only discover this when deploying > their > > > application. Not very nice, all this. > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:59 PM Josh Juneau <juneau...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > GlassFish requires a JDK because it does not include one. One must > > > utilize > > > > a JDK in order to start up GlassFish server. > > > > > > > > It sounds like the Maven-based web application is starting up without > > > issue > > > > because in this case GlassFish must be configured to start under a > > > > specified JDK 8 installation (not the one indicated within the > NetBeans > > > > project). Therefore, the project is compiling under the specified > JDK > > in > > > > NetBeans (in this case JDK11) and deploying the resulting WAR file > > > without > > > > issue to the GlassFish server that is running under JDK 8. > > > > > > > > I just compiled a Maven WAR under JDK 12 in NetBeans and deployed to > > > > GlassFish 5.1 running on JDK 8. It seemed to work without issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:13 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > OK, nice, in some ways. > > > > > > > > > > What's a bit unfortunate is that one can't select a JDK in the New > > > > Project > > > > > wizard for New Web Applications -- whatever JDK is used to start > > > NetBeans > > > > > is assigned to the newly created Java Web application. > > > > > > > > > > The above is true for Ant-based projects and Maven-based projects. > > > > Somehow, > > > > > that's ignored in Maven-based projects, which run without a problem > > on > > > > > GlassFish 5 despite the JDK being JDK 11. So the question comes > back > > to > > > > -- > > > > > what does GlassFish need the JDK for if it can be ignored, > > apparently, > > > > when > > > > > a Maven-based Web application is able to start up without a problem > > > even > > > > > though it has JDK 11 set? When I look in the POM, there's no > > reference > > > to > > > > > the JDK, so in the case of Maven projects, it seems relevant to how > > > > > NetBeans supports GlassFish or Java EE, and not a requirement for > the > > > > Maven > > > > > project to run on GlassFish. > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:06 PM Josh Juneau <juneau...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > GlassFish 5+ is not currently supported under JDK 9+...that is in > > the > > > > > > works. I believe the target JDK is for Java SE 11 support. > > > > > > > > > > > > See this issue in the tracker: > > > > > > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/22130 > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, GlassFish 5 requires JDK 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, not specifically JDK 8, but greater than JDK 8, too? I.e., > > the > > > > > > modular > > > > > > > JDK, from JDK 9 onwards, is supported by GlassFish? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what does GlassFish need the JDK for? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:57 PM Josh Juneau < > juneau...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Geertjan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 > require > > > JDK > > > > > 8+. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to > > > > > Java/Jakarta > > > > > > EE > > > > > > > > > that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In particular, this results in these problems: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170 > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the question is, which if any specific version of the > JDK > > > > does > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > latest GlassFish releases require? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and > users > > > > > should > > > > > > > > simply > > > > > > > > > be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need > to > > > > change > > > > > > > > > something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with > later > > > > JDKs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by > > > > GlassFish > > > > > > or, > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Josh Juneau > > > > > > > > juneau...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Josh Juneau > > > > > > juneau...@gmail.com > > > > > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > > > > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Josh Juneau > > > > juneau...@gmail.com > > > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > >