On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:16 PM, phan huy <diepvien00th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Gero, > > As I introduced in the "Hello Email", I'm going to participate in GSoC 2009 > with the "Web-based BPEL debugger for Apache ODE" project. So, I have > something to say about your suggestion. > > First, I tried Oryx and found it's a excellent environment for BPEL > modeling > as well as debugging. I think that's a great idea to integrate Oryx and > Apache ODE. In fact, I myself did intent to use Extjs to implement the > frontend for BPEL debugger as ExtJS is being a most robust DHTML-based RIAs > platform. I experimented a lot with ExtJS in some rich internet > applications. Personally, I think that ExtJS provided me almost things I > need to make hight interactive applications with good performance (in my > case it's an Web-based Restaurant management application). Therefore, I'll > do some study in your two components soon. Hope that you all could give me > some advices in my coming proposal ! > I don't believe that EXTJS' license is compatible with the existing ODE licenses? Would this not cause you some issues ? - Cj > Sincerely, > > 2009/3/13 Paul Brown <paulrbr...@gmail.com> > > > > > Hi, Gero -- > > > > I thought it was an excellent idea both times you sent it. :) > > > > Any thought to using canvas in place of the SVG? My initial experiments > > with it (non-Ode-related) have shown better performance and uniformity > > between browsers (FF/Safari). > > > > Best. > > > > -- Paul > > > > > > On Mar 12, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Decker, Gero wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > >> > >> we are developing an open source process modeling tool that runs in the > >> web browser. You might have already heard about the Oryx project ( > >> http://bpt.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/Oryx for users and > >> http://code.google.com/p/oryx-editor/ for developers). It specifically > >> supports BPMN 1.2 and other process modeling languages. Just check out > our > >> online installation. > >> > >> I think Oryx could be the perfect frontend for graphical BPEL debugging. > >> Recently, we have implemented two components that should make it quite > easy > >> to integrate with Apache ODE: > >> - There is a mashup-API that is very similar to Google's Maps API: It > >> provides a read-only view for process models and allows to easily > visualize > >> additional information on top of it. E.g. you can add speech bubbles to > >> elements in the model, in turn containing e.g. HTML divs. We have used > this > >> API already to integrate with a number of other systems (such as ticket > >> management systems and BPM engines). Checkout examples at > >> http://bpt.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/Oryx/MOVI. > >> - We have implemented a BPEL-2-BPMN transformator that visualizes BPEL > >> processes using BPMN. The generated BPMN diagram is then layouted > >> automatically. For details please check out our academic paper at > >> > http://bpt.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/pub/Public/GeroDecker/coopis2008-bpel2bpmn.pdf > >> . > >> > >> Oryx is developed under MIT license. The server component is developed > in > >> Java, the client-side code is JavaScript. Rendering happens through SVG > (in > >> the editing mode) and PNG in the read-only mashup-mode. > >> > >> The final setup with Apache ODE could look as follows: A slim Oryx-war > is > >> deployed in addition to the Apache ODE server, allowing for the > BPEL-2-BPMN > >> transformation, the PNG-generation and the delivery of the > JavaScript-code > >> to the browser. The debugging-mashup comes on top, accessing the > >> corresponding ODE-APIs and visualizing it using the Oryx-functionality. > >> > >> As an idea for the future, one could also think about using Oryx as > >> configuration frontend for BPEL processes. We have implemented > BPMN-2-BPEL > >> transformations which could serve as basis for this. > >> > >> We would be very happy to contribute as mentors in a joint Google Summer > >> of Code project. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Gero > >> > > > > >
