+1
when I ask your opinion it was as I was learning and was looking for
guidance, so I could contribute correctly.
If you notice since we have had documentation, I have not ask that as much.
I respect you for the effort and thought you put into ofbiz.

So a blurb about you and andy would seem appropriate as the founders of
ofbiz.

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Adrian Crum sent the following on 3/17/2010 8:21 AM:
> David E Jones wrote:
>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/03/2010, at 6:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll admit I empathize with what Sharan is expressing here. It's
>>>> hard to do stuff, or know how to do stuff and what to do, when there
>>>> are a bunch of people responding with implied policies or with
>>>> vetoes for this and that.
>>> Well let's document it so everyone knows what the community policy
>>> is.  Please feel free to comment on the guidelines I proposed
>>> elsewhere in this thread.
>>>
>>> You've quite clearly stepped away from taking an administrative
>>> position within the community and it would be nice if we didn't spend
>>> too much time criticizing people who are trying to help fill that void.
>>
>> Oh, is that what's happening? I guess I missed that... I didn't even
>> realize there was an administrative void. Maybe it goes further than
>> that... when I was the PMC Chair maybe a lot of stuff went on that
>> needed more "administration" when I didn't think any interference was
>> necessary. Or, maybe that has nothing to do with the PMC Chair role
>> anyway...
> 
> There is definitely a void of some kind. Your efforts to step back and
> take on a more passive role means something has changed in the
> community. If you're stepping back, then that implies you are stepping
> back from *something*. It's that *something* I believe Scott is trying
> to describe.
> 
> Sometimes people refer to you in discussions or sometimes they wait on a
> decision until they have heard from you and you are bothered by that. I
> don't think the community in general perceives you as someone in charge
> who has the final say. Instead, I think it is more of a recognition of
> the fact that you are one of the co-founders of the project, and a
> recognition of the tremendous contributions you have made over the years.
> 
> Whether or not you possess a formal title, there will always be an
> implied one in this community because of who you are - not because some
> entity has bestowed it on you. Think of it as being an elder statesman.
> We understand you would rather not be in that position, but that's how
> things are.
> 
> -Adrian
> 


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