David E Jones wrote:
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Scott Gray wrote:

On 16/03/2010, at 6:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:

I'll admit I empathize with what Sharan is expressing here. It's hard to do 
stuff, or know how to do stuff and what to do, when there are a bunch of people 
responding with implied policies or with vetoes for this and that.
Well let's document it so everyone knows what the community policy is.  Please 
feel free to comment on the guidelines I proposed elsewhere in this thread.

You've quite clearly stepped away from taking an administrative position within 
the community and it would be nice if we didn't spend too much time criticizing 
people who are trying to help fill that void.

Oh, is that what's happening? I guess I missed that... I didn't even realize there was an 
administrative void. Maybe it goes further than that... when I was the PMC Chair maybe a 
lot of stuff went on that needed more "administration" when I didn't think any 
interference was necessary. Or, maybe that has nothing to do with the PMC Chair role 
anyway...

There is definitely a void of some kind. Your efforts to step back and take on a more passive role means something has changed in the community. If you're stepping back, then that implies you are stepping back from *something*. It's that *something* I believe Scott is trying to describe.

Sometimes people refer to you in discussions or sometimes they wait on a decision until they have heard from you and you are bothered by that. I don't think the community in general perceives you as someone in charge who has the final say. Instead, I think it is more of a recognition of the fact that you are one of the co-founders of the project, and a recognition of the tremendous contributions you have made over the years.

Whether or not you possess a formal title, there will always be an implied one in this community because of who you are - not because some entity has bestowed it on you. Think of it as being an elder statesman. We understand you would rather not be in that position, but that's how things are.

-Adrian

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