The themes repository should not actually be a SVN repository but the https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Visual+Themes+Gallery can be a right place to host them. Simpler, easier to access.
-Bruno 2011/1/7 Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]> > OK, that was the reason I had some concerns. Let's discuss it seriously... > > I think there are 2 ways to create a new themes from an existing one (a > brand new one is not a problem). > > Duplicate an OOTB existing one and peek an poke there (resourceValues in > ThemeNameThemeData.xml are all refering to locations in this theme) > pros: independent from changes in the original theme (no pb if the theme > dissapears, is changed for any reasons, etc.) > cons: independent from changes in the original theme (you can't benefit > from bug fixes, improvements, enhancements, etc.) > > Create a new theme by keeping references to an OOTB existing (some > resourceValues in ThemeNameThemeData.xml are still refering to locations in > this original theme) > As (almost) ever there are 2 faces to the coin, the pros and cons are > reversed from above. > > Which one are you using BJ? I guess the second. Else you would not have any > concerns > > Jacques > > From: "BJ Freeman" <[email protected]> > > Adrian i am sure as a business man you understand if it ain't broke don't >> fix it. >> Now if you talking about new themes I can agree, but no one has proposed >> any or give an price. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation < >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/6/2011 3:23 PM: >> >>> That can go both ways. If your deployments depends upon the visual >>> themes being in the trunk, then perhaps you should fund their upkeep. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> On 1/6/2011 2:58 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> so you will be glad to fund the effort to do that. >>>> Time is money. and anything the effects the ROI needs to be considered, >>>> if the software is to be widely accepted. >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:51 PM: >>>> >>>>> I completely agree with you BJ. Considerations definitely have to be >>>>> made when things are removed, especially if they are tied to the >>>>> framework. What is being discussed is whether to remove themes, which >>>>> can be hot-deployed from being maintained in the trunk. For future >>>>> releases, all you would need to do is manually add your themes, custom >>>>> or otherwise, to your production instance. If they are no longer tied >>>>> in svn to the trunk, they would not be effected by any updates or >>>>> releases. >>>>> >>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:40 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> so there will not be any more releases based on the trunk? >>>>>> I was speaking in the future when 11.04 or 12.04 happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> it is the disregard of those that actually use this software instead >>>>>> of just enjoy developing it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a developer second and a business man first. >>>>>> >>>>>> basically you can add all you want but when you want to remove you >>>>>> must consider those that have counted on what was provided. >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>>> Automation< >>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:33 PM: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases. >>>>>>> No production servers should rely on trunk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/1/6 BJ Freeman<[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have one that uses the flat grey as default >>>>>>>> so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my >>>>>>>> customization >>>>>>>> disappear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification. >>>>>>>> they will be removed. when the svn update is run. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> those are just a few examples. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What could be the issue? >>>>>>>>> We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey, >>>>>>>>> Tomahawk, >>>>>>>>> Default and Multiflex). >>>>>>>>> We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional >>>>>>>>> themes >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the Themes Gallery. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of >>>>>>>>> the OOTB, >>>>>>>>> one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/1/6 BJ Freeman<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many >>>>>>>>> themes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> their clients. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally >>>>>>>>>> accepted in >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB. >>>>>>>>>>> Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the >>>>>>>>>>> evolution >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> the other. >>>>>>>>>>> Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing >>>>>>>>>>> the one >>>>>>>>>>> existing just to avoid problems to users. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and >>>>>>>>>>> BizznessTime >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as >>>>>>>>>>> suggested by >>>>>>>>>>> Ryan. >>>>>>>>>>> Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and >>>>>>>>>>> put it in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> themes repository. >>>>>>>>>>> Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> doing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend >>>>>>>>>>> (Actual >>>>>>>>>>> FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> Multiflex). >>>>>>>>>>> In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping >>>>>>>>>>> Crumbs, >>>>>>>>>>> BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey. >>>>>>>>>>> It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) >>>>>>>>>>> start. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Roux<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> inline... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themes has some valid points. However, in regards to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "my" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. I always viewed it as a community theme as that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other members of the the OFBiz community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "fathers" (the most important I guess) and helped much >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the beginning, my apologies. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> significantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent consulting and freelance development. I plan on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much more active role in the community in the months and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ahead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's really a good, very good news! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals could commit to? The problem with theme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new theme has been added to the trunk is that not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone has commit privileges to the trunk. This makes the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collaboration, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as *at least one works "perfectly"* (another way is to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> become committer), opinions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> With >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wordpress, there is one "official" theme that is >>>>>>>>>>>>> included with the install, but there are literally thousands >>>>>>>>>>>>> of themes >>>>>>>>>>>>> that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on >>>>>>>>>>>>> there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the 3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> release you can even search for new themes and install them >>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically from inside your Wordpress install. Doing it >>>>>>>>>>>>> this way >>>>>>>>>>>>> fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of >>>>>>>>>>>>> these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it >>>>>>>>>>>>> on a >>>>>>>>>>>>> handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize >>>>>>>>>>>>> there contributions by offering "premium" themes and plugins. >>>>>>>>>>>>> In >>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, >>>>>>>>>>>>> there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress >>>>>>>>>>>>> community that make their living solely by selling themes and >>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This furthers solidifies the base of support for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants >>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>> than OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom >>>>>>>>>>>>> development. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean >>>>>>>>>>>> that we >>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>> not try... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can fix it. If I'm not available, someone else could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix it, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your screen copies at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks really great! Looking forward for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> later to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Bizzness Time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great. Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (rare) people prefer to use old things, see games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrian. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice the name! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO I see no reason to have a "Flat Grey Evolution" theme. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not add >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another improved version, let's just improve the version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have now. I think that is more efficient and more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long run. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tab-like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation without actually having the tabs look like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tabs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I have some ideas that could help. Email me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been working on already for some time now that I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honestly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will become the go-to theme for scalability and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> altogether. The new theme scales down very well to 800x600 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stay tuned for more details in the next few days... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pieces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed in two rows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By "chiclet" main navigation style, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grey as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is (because there are advantages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Adrian Crum"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rid of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "chiclet" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible left column. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sascha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rodekamp<[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected], >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jacques Le Roux"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really would appreciate to keep the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few visual improvements. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..... :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/12/29 Jacques Le >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roux<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no ideas though :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Adrian Crum"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The current version of the theme is based on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and feel of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2004. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Spring of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original style >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, the visual theme was converted to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> floating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flexible layout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (to fit any size screen), it was made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight-impaired accessible (font size >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be changed), and it added support for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bi-directional >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (for rtl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> languages). Those design decisions were made by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fallback >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme when all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else fails. It just works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it more modern, but maintain its advantages over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themes. I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking it only needs css and gif file updates. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javascripts would be maintained. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone is interested, they are welcome to help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate any suggestions or comments. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.lynx.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
