From: "Hans Bakker" <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
Jacopo,
You removed the trunk download from the download page which was there from the start without trying to get a consensus. Sure, if
everybody thinks that is way to go, than that is it. However i think seeing the the history of OFBiz where the trunk was always
very reliable and where problems were always fixed within hours, the trunk is very usable and people selecting the download page
should be aware of it.
Actually the official Apache pages list this link on the central site.
http://projects.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html
So it has nothing to do with Apache policies.
Wrong conclusion, this is rendered from our own doap_OFBiz.rdf (in website) so it has nothing to do with an Apache policies. It
still good to have it there. Those pages are not for end users, it's about projects, so fro developpers (no links to releases there)
So why not on the OFBiz site? I think it should be there taking the amount of changes that are applied to the trunk, showing the
latest version is following the latest internet developments.
Further what you are going to do with the 'what is new' page? If people want to try it, where should they find the download link?
And the trunk demo, how do they find the download link here too?
You mean https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Main+New+Features I guess? We could but a link to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Source+Repository+and+Access from this page.
Anyway there is a lot to do regarding documentation, see for instance
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Documentation+Index what about "Apache OFBiz official documentation." (ie
http://localhost:8080/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML), etc.
Jacques
So lets do a vote....and see if the removal of the link from the download page
was agreed or not.
Hans
On 04/07/2012 10:30 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I am against this, especially if it comes as an order issued by Hans: he is not in the position of being aggressive or forcing us
to do what it pleases him, he doesn't have the skills, the power, the merit to rule us (not to mention me); he did it in the past
just because we let him do this.
Now, if you and Hans feel that we should add a sentence about the trunk in the download page, please provide a valid motivation
and a valid text, then start a vote: if the community will vote in favor of it I will be happy to accept and implement
accordingly; otherwise I will not waste more of my time discussing this just to please Hans.
Jacopo
On Apr 7, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
From: "Jacopo Cappellato"<jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
This is not consensus, it is a compromise.
Right
What is the purpose of mentioning that we have also a trunk (obvious)
To relax each other positions (is that even English? :o).
Meant for users for are not acquainted with open source but still potential
OFBiz users
and what is the text that you would like to add there?
<<Beside the releases you could also go the bleeding edge way [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_edge_technology] and check
out the trunk from OFBiz repository (Subversion)>>
Depending of the way we prefer to present it, could be also state of art [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_art] because
trunk is really not that bleeding edge...
Jacques
Jacopo
On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Maybe, as a consensus, we can put a word about it and not a link?
Jacques
From: "Hans Bakker"<mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
But Apache does not prohibit it?
you want to be the best pupil in the Apache school?
I still think this is wrong not to mention it.
Hans
On 04/07/2012 11:38 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
Thank you Hans,
the download page is intended to end users and we can't include there links to download code that has not been officially
approved; this was an issue we had in the past and the ASF asked us to fix the page in the past.
For the trunk all the information is here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html
(but that page will have to be converted to html and become "more official").
Jacopo
On Apr 7, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
This looks pretty good Jacopo,
congratulations.
However no mention of the latest trunk? That should be at least mentioned.
Regards,
Hans
On 04/07/2012 11:27 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I have now updated the OFBiz download page with a new section containing the
tentative release schedule for each release:
http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html
Congratulations, we have now a plan (simple but effective and achievable) and at least users now have a clear vision of
the lifespan of the release branch they are using and can plan in advance the migration of their custom instance.
Jacopo
On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
From: "Jacopo Cappellato"<jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
For me also 6 months seems long enough for the 1st official release. I'm just afraid: will we have not a lot of work to
release so often (relases themself, annunciations, site update and especially demos updates)
Anyway it seems we need to do it, maybe at the expense of other areas we are
working on (Jiras, users support, etc.)
It will take time for sure but working on releases should be the main goal of a community within the ASF: a release is
the only trusted way to publish the work we do: if we fix a bug but we do not issue a release the users will not get
real benefit.
Sounds logical and good to me. It's time to go ahead regarding our way of doing releases. Some time ago, due to our
change of way (less using trunk), I was afraid that committers activity would be lower, but it seems to be steady up...
so far...
Jacques
Jacopo
Jacques
