You guys are a hoot! I love reading this list.
Com'on BJ...this is silly. Don't be so pretentious. Adrian already
explained his point of view.
So now I wanna know: What makes you think you can assign "opportunities"
to Pierre? Or is that also part of the "meritocracy" that comes with
being a member of this community?
Best Regards,
Ruth
On 7/16/12 11:49 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
I am using this one since it is a long thread and I don't want to read
it all.
This is a great opportunity for someone, like yourself, to take on the
task of informing the user list of activity of the Dev list.
Those that think it of interest on the user list can join or read the
archive of the dev list.
Pierre Smits sent the following on 7/16/2012 2:11 AM:
You mean excluding parts of the community from participating in the
decision-taking processes?
2012/7/16 Adrian Crum<[email protected]>
No, it smells like the current goal of moving things we don't want
in the
main project to external projects. This type of decision-making has
been
going on for years.
-Adrian
On 7/16/2012 9:45 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
I agree with Ruth. This sounds like a user requirement. And the
community
should decide on this.
Furthermore, the remark 'users might like a new feature, but that
doesn't
mean the dev community wants it in the project' smells like
measuring with
double standards; as if the meritocratic principle doesn't apply
when the
committers don't want it in. Or as if changes always get in, when
only the
committers want it.
2012/7/15 Adrian
Crum<adrian.crum@sandglass-**software.com<[email protected]>
Ruth,
I understand your viewpoint. Personally, I prefer to present my
ideas to
the dev list to see if it is something the dev community wants
included
in
the project. Users might like a new feature, but that doesn't mean
the
dev
community wants it in the project. If there was no interest from
the dev
community, then I would offer it as an add-on product and announce
it on
the user list.
I am also a user, and the design was based on the requirement to
monitor
and control server performance. I suppose I could go to the user
list for
more ideas, but the code I'm planning to commit is pretty basic, and
users
will be free to enhance it in whatever way they please.
-Adrian
On 7/15/2012 12:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
Hi Adrian:
Shouldn't this be discussed on the "user" list? IMHO Words like
"applications" and "stats about services and entities"...those
are all
indicative of user requirements, not developer requirements.
Users should be driving requirements gathering and analysis for
OFBiz
and
not developers.
Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth