Please take some time to understand the purpose of the mailing lists:
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/mailing-lists.html
If a user wants to be involved in the design of OFBiz, then they need to
be subscribed to the dev list. We do not discuss requirements and
designs on the user list.
No one is excluded from participation. I proposed an idea. Others
commented on it. If there had been any objections to including it in the
project, then I would offer it as an add-on. Excluding a proposal from
the project does not equal exclusion from participation.
-Adrian
On 7/16/2012 10:11 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
You mean excluding parts of the community from participating in the
decision-taking processes?
2012/7/16 Adrian Crum <[email protected]>
No, it smells like the current goal of moving things we don't want in the
main project to external projects. This type of decision-making has been
going on for years.
-Adrian
On 7/16/2012 9:45 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
I agree with Ruth. This sounds like a user requirement. And the community
should decide on this.
Furthermore, the remark 'users might like a new feature, but that doesn't
mean the dev community wants it in the project' smells like measuring with
double standards; as if the meritocratic principle doesn't apply when the
committers don't want it in. Or as if changes always get in, when only the
committers want it.
2012/7/15 Adrian Crum
<adrian.crum@sandglass-**software.com<[email protected]>
Ruth,
I understand your viewpoint. Personally, I prefer to present my ideas to
the dev list to see if it is something the dev community wants included
in
the project. Users might like a new feature, but that doesn't mean the
dev
community wants it in the project. If there was no interest from the dev
community, then I would offer it as an add-on product and announce it on
the user list.
I am also a user, and the design was based on the requirement to monitor
and control server performance. I suppose I could go to the user list for
more ideas, but the code I'm planning to commit is pretty basic, and
users
will be free to enhance it in whatever way they please.
-Adrian
On 7/15/2012 12:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
Hi Adrian:
Shouldn't this be discussed on the "user" list? IMHO Words like
"applications" and "stats about services and entities"...those are all
indicative of user requirements, not developer requirements.
Users should be driving requirements gathering and analysis for OFBiz
and
not developers.
Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth