How so?

Regards
Scott

On 15/09/2014, at 8:42 pm, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cost more time, more money...
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
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> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Scott Gray <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> grep ":ERROR" ofbiz.log is too complicated?  It achieves exactly the same
>> result.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 15/09/2014, at 7:41 pm, Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 15/09/2014 02:29, Scott Gray a écrit :
>>>>> If you want an example of its handy use, here is one. I want to
>> monitor what's happening in the trunk demo. Because it's a an efficient
>> mean, beside tests and reviews, to early spot new introduced errors.
>>>>> Of course I can got there and run zgrep, but it's much easier to
>> simply monitor an error.log file. The same apply in custom project.
>>>> Could you please explain how it is easier?  There are a lot of errors
>> (I would say the majority) where the single log line doesn't give you
>> anywhere near enough information to find out the source and cause.  For
>> those you ultimately always have to go to the ofbiz.log file to understand
>> the context of the error.
>>> 
>>> To early discriminate if it's an important (or very important) error/s
>> that should be addressed ASAP. In other words to define priorities, notably
>> when in development step with a team.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for asking
>>> 
>>> Jacques
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/09/2014, at 8:35 pm, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 12/09/2014 06:17, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since Jacopo did not answer, here is my proposition.
>>>>>> Was there a question for me? I was hoping that this waste of time was
>> finished
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We could, as suggested Nicolas, add some educational comments in
>> log4j2.xml and add 2 commented out sections for error.log
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, you are not happy until you mess up with the log4j2 config file?
>> :-) Apart from you, Jacques, no one complained or asked for modifications
>> to the config file (even after you asked for feedback).
>>>>> I could be wrong, but it seems to me Pierre and Nicolas expressed
>> something about it
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not asking to put back the error.log w/o good reasons and I
>> already explained them
>>>>> If you want an example of its handy use, here is one. I want to
>> monitor what's happening in the trunk demo. Because it's a an efficient
>> mean, beside tests and reviews, to early spot new introduced errors.
>>>>> Of course I can got there and run zgrep, but it's much easier to
>> simply monitor an error.log file. The same apply in custom project.
>>>>> Of course again, I can change the log4j2.xml there as I can schlep a
>> patch in all places I would have to in future :/
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't understand why you are so not open to put back the error.log
>> in log4j2.xml and qualify this as a mess and almost myself and idiot. Could
>> you explain your reasons please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the other part (comments), I explained why I prefer to have
>> comments in files over having an online documentation, ever if of course
>> having both is not bad (as long as the online doc is updated).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Agreed?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 09/09/2014 15:10, Pierre Smits a écrit :
>>>>>>>> And for whom
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Op 9 sep. 2014 om 14:23 heeft Jacques Le Roux <
>> [email protected]> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Le 09/09/2014 13:26, Nicolas Malin a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Le 09/09/2014 12:41, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the main reason the trunk should be kept as clean as
>> possible, instead of changing stuff to fit committers' personal preferences.
>>>>>>>>>> It's clear and good to simplify the configuration on production
>> site.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On some other projet (mostly on debian ;) ), configuration file
>> contains few enable element but so mostly commented configurations with
>> context explication of the reason to use it.
>>>>>>>>>> With a good text editor (notepad no match) it's also clear and
>> simple and help uncover some other view.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No I don't use trunk for my configuration, I have my own
>> parameters with my own method to deploy them :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That's a very interesting point Nicolas. The problem is now to
>> know what means "as clean as possible" in Jacopo's sentence above
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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