I think what u r talking about is the Pluto Portal Driver, remember that
Pluto is only a portlet container not a portal server.

Here is what I think, we have our WebAdmin developed usign Portlets/JSP/AJAX
- any mix of them - and we can provide different alternatives to users:

1- Have the WebAdmin alone and they install it on any WebContainer which
supports these technologies, and we can provide documentational instructions
on how to use and setup this WebAdmin on a number of different WebContainers
.

2- Have OpenEJB bundled with Tomcat/Jetty - and we are going to use them in
the embedded mode only, I don't think we should bundle the whole Tomcat/Jett
WebContainers with OpenEJB .


On 8/30/07, Karan Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does pluto work with Jetty (Technically it should work with any
> servlet container), but I remember using pluto a year and a half ago
> and I saw somewhere that it only worked with tomcat (or maybe a
> certain feature worked with only tomcat).
>
> Do you know of any project which has successfully used Jetty + Pluto.
> What is the servlet container container for Geronimo?
>
>
> On 8/30/07, Raj Saini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think Jetty is the best choice as it is light weight, embeddable and
> > very small foot print. ActiveMQ uses that for its web console.
> >
> > I do not feel bundling tomcat with OpenEJB will be right think to do.
> > Admin Console should transparent from user. However, it would be nice to
> > provide the standalone web application which users can deploy inside
> > their application. For example, I embed ActiveMQ in one of my web
> > application. Earlier I was forced to use the embedded Jetty (i.e.
> > running a servlet (Jetty) container inside another contain (Tomcat).
> > Standalone web application should be deployable in any servlet
> container.
> >
> > Having web admin application as portelts is good idea but it would need
> > portal container. Pluto should be the choice (portals.apache.org) as it
> > is reference implementation of JSR-168 and comes with minimal baggage.
> >
> > And I feel JMX is the standard to manage OpenEJB server and deployed
> > components.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raj
> >
> > Karan Malhi wrote:
> > >> 1- Do we have to use JSP or Portlets just because we wan to to use
> them, or
> > >> we just need to provide good looking dynamic WebAdmin for OpenEJB, we
> > >> started to think of the technology before we see what we really need
> > >>
> > > Thats a good one ;) . I think of it is "there is already something
> > > available which can allow you to do a lot more and a lot faster ". So
> > > JSF gives me the ability to build GUI rapidly, which is what we need
> > > for WebAdming (GUI). Portlets give me layout and common look and feel
> > > capabilities and other stuff. Allows me to "drop in" functionality at
> > > the correct location without affecting anything else on the page.
> > > Something like "Oh, I wish I could configure xyz on the server through
> > > web admin, or I wish I could customize the way i look at log files
> > > through webadmin" could be created and plugged in independently by a
> > > developer.
> > > This also allows somebody who just wants to add  functionality on
> > > their own instance of web admin in a standard way. For example, if i
> > > created a cool portlet for my web admin, I can easily plugin into
> > > webadmin without knowing anything about the current webadmin
> > > framework. Later I realize that my portlet could be useful for the
> > > community as a whole, I can simply submit the code to OpenEJB and we
> > > can drop it into web admin.
> > >
> > >> 2- If we really need to use any of these technologies, we can search
> for
> > >> smaller Engines which provide the main functionality,
> > >>
> > > I think, For JSP support we could use Jasper to compile jsp's
> > >
> > >
> > >> sure - of Jetty, and we can provide OpenEJB we Jetty only to serve
> the
> > >> WebAdmin, or we can do as Karan suggested before to have OpenEJB
> distro
> > >> already bundled with Tomcat and/or Jetty .
> > >>
> > > Yes, ship the standalone version without webadmin and tomcat version
> > > would have webadmin. People can pick and choose the distro depending
> > > on what features they need
> > >
> > >> On 8/30/07, Jacek Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 8/27/07, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Is it possible to support JSF without a full servlet container, jsp
> > >>>> enginge, and tag libs support?
> > >>>>
> > >>> I don't think so. JSF is layered atop JSP so although you might
> think
> > >>> of JSF with no servlet container (plus JSP) there's no JSF
> > >>> implementation I can think of that would run in a servlet container
> > >>> with no jsp engine. I'd like to hear I'm mistaken though. It'd be
> > >>> great to have a JSF console for openejb. I like the idea.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jacek
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Jacek Laskowski
> > >>> http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Thanks
> > >> - Mohammad Nour
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Karan Singh Malhi
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour

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