On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > actually most of the other javaee APIs share the same problem like myfaces.
The only other one that we've had issues with is JavaMail. That one doesn't even have an impl jar its that bad. Maybe servlet, though not sure as Geronimo has used the same servlet API jar with Tomcat and Jetty for years. > E.g. you cannot exchange javax.el-api.jar with the tomcat or juel versions, > because they really must fit to their impl jars! They are all API compatible, > but _not_ runtime compatible! Wasn't aware about the EL jar. /me grumbles about the concept of an api vs implementation :) Do you recall any details about EL? Will dig around, but if you have any pointers that'd be great. > The CDI and atinject apis are fine in this regard, not 100% sure about > javax.validation-api. Picked through the geronimo-validation_1.0_spec source just to be sure. It looks good. -David > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:14 AM >> Subject: Re: Inclusion of MyFace API in javaee-api jar >> >> No no, go ahead! >> >> Jean-Louis >> >> 2012/1/4 David Blevins <[email protected]> >> >>> Didn't seem there were any objections to yanking MyFaces API from the >>> javaee-api jar. Speak up if you have other thoughts. >>> >>> Will aim to release this tomorrow if possible. Happy to wait -- just say >>> the word :) >>> >>> >>> -David >>> >>> On Oct 28, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: >>> >>>> maybe we can wait Jon talk (tuesday) before doing it? >>>> >>>> - Romain >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/10/28 David Blevins <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> We should probably yank the myfaces-api from the current >> javaee-api jar >>>>> snapshot. >>>>> >>>>> Seems this jar is really an implementation and if someone wanted >> to use >>> a >>>>> different Faces implementation they would be unable to do so. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Matt Benson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Blevins < >>> [email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Quick question on the org.apache.myfaces.core:myfaces-api >> jar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it tied to MyFaces in some way? Guessing the answer >> is, yes, as it >>>>> is labeled "myfaces-api" and not something more generic >> like "faces-api" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the answer is, no, then the follow up is how often does >> its >>> contents >>>>> change? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it is stable and only changed once in a while, we might >> include it >>> in >>>>> the javaee-api jar we produce from OpenEJB/TomEE. We don't >> include >>> JavaMail >>>>> for example as it really isn't an API but an actual >> implementation. >>> Seems >>>>> like that is the case here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nail on the head and all that. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>
