On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:

> I'm really +1 for releasing now and then in 1 month from now. The previously 
> released tomee version really had some big glitches, and we need to ship 
> something to be able to make any users able to give tomee a serious run...
> 
> I'm sure we will get back a lot feedback and there will be other things which 
> must get improved as well in this month!
> 
> In ~1M we will get bval to TLP and release bval-1.0, release owb-1.1.4 and 
> release OpenJPA-2.2.0 (already triggered the discuss about it).

Agree on all points.  Nicely phrased.

Going to branch and see if I can get this rolling.


-David

> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>> 
>>> No, this ones is not available with previous owb. Was the same with
>>> interceptor bindings.
>>> 
>>> However i still think 1.1.4 should be used since it fixes issues relative
>>> to cdi 1.0 itself.
>> 
>> Right, I think it comes down to:  should we release now and then again in 
>> two or 
>> three weeks, or should we just release in two or three weeks.
>> 
>> So either way I see a release in our future in 2 or 3 weeks.  I see that 
>> release 
>> as a constant.  Will happen regardless.
>> 
>> The real question is are the issues in beta-1 and 1.1.1 bad enough that we 
>> should try and release something now as well?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>>> Le 4 janv. 2012 18:19, "David Blevins" 
>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> -> the 0.3 release of bval means changing the bval tck setup
>>>>> -> the bug of owb 1.1.3 is not tested in TCKs (as a lot of 
>> others):
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1224895
>>>> 
>>>> Cool.  Can you file a JIRA for that one.
>>>> 
>>>> This is basically the "can't add interceptors via an 
>> extension" bug right?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -David
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2012/1/4 David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if you have the openjpa-maven-plugin-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT, then 
>> you most
>>>>>> definitely also have openjpa itself in 2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm using an internally released version of it in 2 
>> projects, and
>>>>>> OpenJPA-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT is really stable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So we could also push for shipping an OpenJPA release. I 
>> can take over
>>>>>> driving this part (I'm OpenJPA committer).
>>>>>>> I found quite a few (personal) show stoppers in 
>> openjpa-2.1.x which we
>>>>>> fixed in 2.2.x
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any gut feeling on how long releases take in OpenJPA-land?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you still like to use openjpa-2.1.x, then just use the
>>>>>> org.codehaus.mojo version of the plugin instead [1]. They are 
>> basically
>>>> the
>>>>>> same source, I just moved the plugin over to openjpa to make it 
>> easier
>>>> to
>>>>>> maintain and test with OpenJPA itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Probably the TCK will be the biggest indicator if we can 
>> switch, then
>>>>>> 2.2.x release time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure where our SNAPSHOT discussions will end up, but I can 
>> see us
>>>>>> potentially releasing now with prior versions of the SNAPSHOTs 
>> then
>>>>>> beginning another release  in 2-3 weeks as the newer versions 
>> come
>>>> along.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seems like there's some merit in releasing now and giving 
>> people just a
>>>>>> bit more time to get their releases out the door.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:56 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:52 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Can we use timestamped snapshot as a workaround 
>> (for snapshot deps,
>>>> I
>>>>>>>> mean)?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We could maybe release the code ourselves like 
>> Geronimo does from
>>>> time
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> time.  Just copy it in, update the groupIds and release 
>> it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Looking at our snapshots we have:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - javaee-api  6.0-3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.1-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.4-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - bval  0.4-incubating-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - openejb-openwebbeans-jsf  1.1.2-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container  
>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - openejb-jstl 1.3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Some of these will be easy to deal with, but these seem 
>> a bit
>>>> trickier:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container  
>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From a compliance perpective it looks like we're 
>> good with the
>>>> following
>>>>>>>> previous versions:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.0
>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.3
>>>>>>>> - bval  0.3-incubating (our patched version)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We could easily release again in two weeks or so when 
>> these things are
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> released.  We keep saying we want to release more 
>> frequently but we
>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>> yet done it.  Releasing again when these binaries are 
>> out might be a
>>>>>> good way to
>>>>>>>> get into that habit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Holding our release isn't that appealing and 
>> neither is using
>>>>>>>> non-reproducable timestamped versions.  Neither are 
>> really good
>>>> habits.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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