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On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:

> oh, already commited
> - Romain
> 
> 
> 2012/1/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
> 
>> or better - create a release branch now for this version and apply your
>> fix there.
>> This will also make it possible to run the TCK without interrupting any
>> work on trunk in the meantime.
>> Then you folks can later do small fixes without interfering with other
>> work.
>> 
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]; Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>> 
>>> i'll redo my fix on trunk then we'll be able to use the previous
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> - Romain
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/1/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>> really, from owb-1.1.3 to 1.1.4 there is not much difference beside the
>>>> fix I did for Romain.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that this is important for your scenario, but most people will
>> not
>>>> have this issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Romain, is it possible that you just upgrade the owb-impl.jar locally
>> and
>>>> we go on with 1.1.3 so far?
>>>> 
>>>> I'm really +1 for releasing now and then in 1 month from now. The
>>>> previously released tomee version really had some big glitches, and we
>> need
>>>> to ship something to be able to make any users able to give tomee a
>> serious
>>>> run...
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sure we will get back a lot feedback and there will be other things
>>>> which must get improved as well in this month!
>>>> 
>>>> In ~1M we will get bval to TLP and release bval-1.0, release owb-1.1.4
>> and
>>>> release OpenJPA-2.2.0 (already triggered the discuss about it).
>>>> 
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:01 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, this ones is not available with previous owb. Was the same
>>> with
>>>>>> interceptor bindings.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However i still think 1.1.4 should be used since it fixes issues
>>>> relative
>>>>>> to cdi 1.0 itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right, I think it comes down to:  should we release now and then
>> again
>>>> in two or
>>>>> three weeks, or should we just release in two or three weeks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So either way I see a release in our future in 2 or 3 weeks.  I see
>>> that
>>>> release
>>>>> as a constant.  Will happen regardless.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The real question is are the issues in beta-1 and 1.1.1 bad enough
>>> that
>>>> we
>>>>> should try and release something now as well?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -David
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 4 janv. 2012 18:19, "David Blevins"
>>>>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -> the 0.3 release of bval means changing the bval tck
>>> setup
>>>>>>>> -> the bug of owb 1.1.3 is not tested in TCKs (as a
>>> lot of
>>>>> others):
>>>>>>>> 
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1224895
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cool.  Can you file a JIRA for that one.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is basically the "can't add interceptors via an
>>>>> extension" bug right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2012/1/4 David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> if you have the
>>> openjpa-maven-plugin-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT, then
>>>>> you most
>>>>>>>>> definitely also have openjpa itself in
>>> 2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using an internally released version of
>>> it in 2
>>>>> projects, and
>>>>>>>>> OpenJPA-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT is really stable.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So we could also push for shipping an OpenJPA
>>> release. I
>>>>> can take over
>>>>>>>>> driving this part (I'm OpenJPA committer).
>>>>>>>>>> I found quite a few (personal) show stoppers in
>>>>> openjpa-2.1.x which we
>>>>>>>>> fixed in 2.2.x
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any gut feeling on how long releases take in
>>> OpenJPA-land?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If you still like to use openjpa-2.1.x, then just
>>> use the
>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.mojo version of the plugin instead [1].
>>> They are
>>>>> basically
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same source, I just moved the plugin over to openjpa
>>> to make it
>>>>> easier
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> maintain and test with OpenJPA itself.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Probably the TCK will be the biggest indicator if we
>>> can
>>>>> switch, then
>>>>>>>>> 2.2.x release time.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not sure where our SNAPSHOT discussions will end up,
>>> but I can
>>>>> see us
>>>>>>>>> potentially releasing now with prior versions of the
>>> SNAPSHOTs
>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> beginning another release  in 2-3 weeks as the newer
>>> versions
>>>>> come
>>>>>>> along.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Seems like there's some merit in releasing now
>>> and giving
>>>>> people just a
>>>>>>>>> bit more time to get their releases out the door.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: David Blevins
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:52 PM, David Blevins
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Jean-Louis
>>> MONTEIRO
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we use timestamped snapshot as a
>>> workaround
>>>>> (for snapshot deps,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> mean)?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We could maybe release the code ourselves
>>> like
>>>>> Geronimo does from
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> time.  Just copy it in, update the groupIds
>>> and release
>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at our snapshots we have:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - javaee-api  6.0-3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.1-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.4-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - bval  0.4-incubating-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - openejb-openwebbeans-jsf  1.1.2-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container
>>>>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - openejb-jstl 1.3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Some of these will be easy to deal with, but
>>> these seem
>>>>> a bit
>>>>>>> trickier:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container
>>>>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> From a compliance perpective it looks like
>>> we're
>>>>> good with the
>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>> previous versions:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.0
>>>>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.3
>>>>>>>>>>> - bval  0.3-incubating (our patched version)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> We could easily release again in two weeks or
>>> so when
>>>>> these things are
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> released.  We keep saying we want to release
>>> more
>>>>> frequently but we
>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>> yet done it.  Releasing again when these
>>> binaries are
>>>>> out might be a
>>>>>>>>> good way to
>>>>>>>>>>> get into that habit.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Holding our release isn't that appealing
>>> and
>>>>> neither is using
>>>>>>>>>>> non-reproducable timestamped versions.
>>> Neither are
>>>>> really good
>>>>>>> habits.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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