On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:29 PM, dsh wrote:

> Kind of off-topic: My I use this branch next week while working on the
> TomEE magazine article?

Absolutely.

Ideally it will be released by then :)


-David

> 
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Branch created:  
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/branches/openejb-4.0.0-beta-2/
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>> 
>>> oh, already commited
>>> - Romain
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/1/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>> or better - create a release branch now for this version and apply your
>>>> fix there.
>>>> This will also make it possible to run the TCK without interrupting any
>>>> work on trunk in the meantime.
>>>> Then you folks can later do small fixes without interfering with other
>>>> work.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]; Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>> 
>>>>> i'll redo my fix on trunk then we'll be able to use the previous
>>>>> version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Romain
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2012/1/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> really, from owb-1.1.3 to 1.1.4 there is not much difference beside the
>>>>>> fix I did for Romain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree that this is important for your scenario, but most people will
>>>> not
>>>>>> have this issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Romain, is it possible that you just upgrade the owb-impl.jar locally
>>>> and
>>>>>> we go on with 1.1.3 so far?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm really +1 for releasing now and then in 1 month from now. The
>>>>>> previously released tomee version really had some big glitches, and we
>>>> need
>>>>>> to ship something to be able to make any users able to give tomee a
>>>> serious
>>>>>> run...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm sure we will get back a lot feedback and there will be other things
>>>>>> which must get improved as well in this month!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In ~1M we will get bval to TLP and release bval-1.0, release owb-1.1.4
>>>> and
>>>>>> release OpenJPA-2.2.0 (already triggered the discuss about it).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>> strub
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:01 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, this ones is not available with previous owb. Was the same
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> interceptor bindings.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> However i still think 1.1.4 should be used since it fixes issues
>>>>>> relative
>>>>>>>> to cdi 1.0 itself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Right, I think it comes down to:  should we release now and then
>>>> again
>>>>>> in two or
>>>>>>> three weeks, or should we just release in two or three weeks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So either way I see a release in our future in 2 or 3 weeks.  I see
>>>>> that
>>>>>> release
>>>>>>> as a constant.  Will happen regardless.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The real question is are the issues in beta-1 and 1.1.1 bad enough
>>>>> that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> should try and release something now as well?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Le 4 janv. 2012 18:19, "David Blevins"
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -> the 0.3 release of bval means changing the bval tck
>>>>> setup
>>>>>>>>>> -> the bug of owb 1.1.3 is not tested in TCKs (as a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>> others):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1224895
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cool.  Can you file a JIRA for that one.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is basically the "can't add interceptors via an
>>>>>>> extension" bug right?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2012/1/4 David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you have the
>>>>> openjpa-maven-plugin-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT, then
>>>>>>> you most
>>>>>>>>>>> definitely also have openjpa itself in
>>>>> 2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using an internally released version of
>>>>> it in 2
>>>>>>> projects, and
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenJPA-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT is really stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So we could also push for shipping an OpenJPA
>>>>> release. I
>>>>>>> can take over
>>>>>>>>>>> driving this part (I'm OpenJPA committer).
>>>>>>>>>>>> I found quite a few (personal) show stoppers in
>>>>>>> openjpa-2.1.x which we
>>>>>>>>>>> fixed in 2.2.x
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any gut feeling on how long releases take in
>>>>> OpenJPA-land?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you still like to use openjpa-2.1.x, then just
>>>>> use the
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.mojo version of the plugin instead [1].
>>>>> They are
>>>>>>> basically
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same source, I just moved the plugin over to openjpa
>>>>> to make it
>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> maintain and test with OpenJPA itself.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably the TCK will be the biggest indicator if we
>>>>> can
>>>>>>> switch, then
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2.x release time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure where our SNAPSHOT discussions will end up,
>>>>> but I can
>>>>>>> see us
>>>>>>>>>>> potentially releasing now with prior versions of the
>>>>> SNAPSHOTs
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> beginning another release  in 2-3 weeks as the newer
>>>>> versions
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>> along.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Seems like there's some merit in releasing now
>>>>> and giving
>>>>>>> people just a
>>>>>>>>>>> bit more time to get their releases out the door.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: David Blevins
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:52 PM, David Blevins
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Jean-Louis
>>>>> MONTEIRO
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we use timestamped snapshot as a
>>>>> workaround
>>>>>>> (for snapshot deps,
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We could maybe release the code ourselves
>>>>> like
>>>>>>> Geronimo does from
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.  Just copy it in, update the groupIds
>>>>> and release
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at our snapshots we have:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - javaee-api  6.0-3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.1-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.4-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - bval  0.4-incubating-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openejb-openwebbeans-jsf  1.1.2-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container
>>>>>>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openejb-jstl 1.3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of these will be easy to deal with, but
>>>>> these seem
>>>>>>> a bit
>>>>>>>>> trickier:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container
>>>>>>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a compliance perpective it looks like
>>>>> we're
>>>>>>> good with the
>>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous versions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - bval  0.3-incubating (our patched version)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We could easily release again in two weeks or
>>>>> so when
>>>>>>> these things are
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> released.  We keep saying we want to release
>>>>> more
>>>>>>> frequently but we
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet done it.  Releasing again when these
>>>>> binaries are
>>>>>>> out might be a
>>>>>>>>>>> good way to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get into that habit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holding our release isn't that appealing
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> neither is using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-reproducable timestamped versions.
>>>>> Neither are
>>>>>>> really good
>>>>>>>>> habits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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