Could be that I start writing during the weekend. Have to have it
finished by friday 13th (I hope the date means luck in this case).

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:37 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:29 PM, dsh wrote:
>
>> Kind of off-topic: My I use this branch next week while working on the
>> TomEE magazine article?
>
> Absolutely.
>
> Ideally it will be released by then :)
>
>
> -David
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Branch created:  
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb/branches/openejb-4.0.0-beta-2/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>
>>>> oh, already commited
>>>> - Romain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> or better - create a release branch now for this version and apply your
>>>>> fix there.
>>>>> This will also make it possible to run the TCK without interrupting any
>>>>> work on trunk in the meantime.
>>>>> Then you folks can later do small fixes without interfering with other
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]; Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:39 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'll redo my fix on trunk then we'll be able to use the previous
>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Romain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/1/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really, from owb-1.1.3 to 1.1.4 there is not much difference beside the
>>>>>>> fix I did for Romain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree that this is important for your scenario, but most people will
>>>>> not
>>>>>>> have this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Romain, is it possible that you just upgrade the owb-impl.jar locally
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> we go on with 1.1.3 so far?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really +1 for releasing now and then in 1 month from now. The
>>>>>>> previously released tomee version really had some big glitches, and we
>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to ship something to be able to make any users able to give tomee a
>>>>> serious
>>>>>>> run...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure we will get back a lot feedback and there will be other things
>>>>>>> which must get improved as well in this month!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In ~1M we will get bval to TLP and release bval-1.0, release owb-1.1.4
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> release OpenJPA-2.2.0 (already triggered the discuss about it).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>>> strub
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:01 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, this ones is not available with previous owb. Was the same
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> interceptor bindings.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However i still think 1.1.4 should be used since it fixes issues
>>>>>>> relative
>>>>>>>>> to cdi 1.0 itself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right, I think it comes down to:  should we release now and then
>>>>> again
>>>>>>> in two or
>>>>>>>> three weeks, or should we just release in two or three weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So either way I see a release in our future in 2 or 3 weeks.  I see
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> as a constant.  Will happen regardless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The real question is are the issues in beta-1 and 1.1.1 bad enough
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> should try and release something now as well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 4 janv. 2012 18:19, "David Blevins"
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -> the 0.3 release of bval means changing the bval tck
>>>>>> setup
>>>>>>>>>>> -> the bug of owb 1.1.3 is not tested in TCKs (as a
>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>>> others):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1224895
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cool.  Can you file a JIRA for that one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is basically the "can't add interceptors via an
>>>>>>>> extension" bug right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/1/4 David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you have the
>>>>>> openjpa-maven-plugin-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT, then
>>>>>>>> you most
>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely also have openjpa itself in
>>>>>> 2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using an internally released version of
>>>>>> it in 2
>>>>>>>> projects, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenJPA-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT is really stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So we could also push for shipping an OpenJPA
>>>>>> release. I
>>>>>>>> can take over
>>>>>>>>>>>> driving this part (I'm OpenJPA committer).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found quite a few (personal) show stoppers in
>>>>>>>> openjpa-2.1.x which we
>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed in 2.2.x
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any gut feeling on how long releases take in
>>>>>> OpenJPA-land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you still like to use openjpa-2.1.x, then just
>>>>>> use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.mojo version of the plugin instead [1].
>>>>>> They are
>>>>>>>> basically
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same source, I just moved the plugin over to openjpa
>>>>>> to make it
>>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> maintain and test with OpenJPA itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably the TCK will be the biggest indicator if we
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> switch, then
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2.x release time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure where our SNAPSHOT discussions will end up,
>>>>>> but I can
>>>>>>>> see us
>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially releasing now with prior versions of the
>>>>>> SNAPSHOTs
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning another release  in 2-3 weeks as the newer
>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> along.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems like there's some merit in releasing now
>>>>>> and giving
>>>>>>>> people just a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit more time to get their releases out the door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: David Blevins
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:52 PM, David Blevins
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Jean-Louis
>>>>>> MONTEIRO
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we use timestamped snapshot as a
>>>>>> workaround
>>>>>>>> (for snapshot deps,
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We could maybe release the code ourselves
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> Geronimo does from
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.  Just copy it in, update the groupIds
>>>>>> and release
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at our snapshots we have:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - javaee-api  6.0-3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.1-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.4-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - bval  0.4-incubating-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openejb-openwebbeans-jsf  1.1.2-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container
>>>>>>>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openejb-jstl 1.3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of these will be easy to deal with, but
>>>>>> these seem
>>>>>>>> a bit
>>>>>>>>>> trickier:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container
>>>>>>>> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a compliance perpective it looks like
>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>> good with the
>>>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous versions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cxf  2.5.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - owb  1.1.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - bval  0.3-incubating (our patched version)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We could easily release again in two weeks or
>>>>>> so when
>>>>>>>> these things are
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released.  We keep saying we want to release
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> frequently but we
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet done it.  Releasing again when these
>>>>>> binaries are
>>>>>>>> out might be a
>>>>>>>>>>>> good way to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get into that habit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holding our release isn't that appealing
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> neither is using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-reproducable timestamped versions.
>>>>>> Neither are
>>>>>>>> really good
>>>>>>>>>> habits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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