I read Jim's concern below Sebastian's letter:
2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> > IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, > a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > external development, legal issues notwithstanding. -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> wrote: > @Alexei I'm afraid you are talking to wider list .... > Could you please clarify what "As for Jim's concern"? > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Alexei Fedotov > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> As for Jim's concern, I think commits can be redirected to commits@ list. >> -- >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> http://dataved.ru/ >> +7 916 562 8095 >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM, [email protected] >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in those >> emails. >> > So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even code >> fragments >> > of GPL licensed code. >> > So those emails could become what they initially should have been: Some >> > simple notification of activity. >> > >> > We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed or >> > archiving external activities. >> > If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with those >> > involved there. >> > >> > All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going on as we >> > provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using. >> > >> > There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send those pings. >> > Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are configured to >> send a >> > ping to our list when there was a SVN commit. >> > http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings >> > >> > It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place to have >> such >> > a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings. >> > There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly for >> example a >> > Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or something like >> > that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another mailing list to >> > monitor :) >> > It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my point of >> view. >> > >> > Sebastian >> > >> > >> > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> >> > >> >> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is >> >> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for >> >> external development, legal issues notwithstanding. >> >> >> >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to follow >> >> external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an external >> >> project's messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best practice, >> >> to say the least. >> >> > >> >> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that everything >> >> coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL. Thus, this seems to >> >> violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL is >> Category >> >> X, which means that end users should be able to use Apache projects and >> >> products without having to worry that GPL code is included - either in >> the >> >> download, or in other places on our websites or mailing lists. >> >> > >> >> > - Shane >> >> > >> >> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has recently >> >> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google Code >> hosted >> >> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those updates are >> >> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap in >> >> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be distinct other >> than >> >> >> this cross-posting of commits. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code is >> passing >> >> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear indication >> of >> >> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my discomfort is >> >> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using GPL code >> >> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational fear. >> >> >> >> >> >> Advice please? >> >> >> >> >> >> Ross >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >> >> >> Programme Leader (Open Development) >> >> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sebastian Wagner >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > [email protected] >> > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax
