Denis can create any nice looking groups @dataved.ru, e.g. [email protected]. This is free and robust because this is Google Apps account.
-- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/apache-openmeetings-extras > > Group mail address would be: > [email protected]<[email protected]> > ... yeah but you got it already :) > > Sebastian > > > 2013/3/22 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > >> great :) >> can you create one? >> And we will use it's email in all "extra projects" >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM, [email protected] < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > just create a Google Group for example? >> > Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it. >> > >> > Sebastian >> > >> > >> > 2013/3/22 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >> > >> > > Maybe anybody knows how to create group email alias for free? >> > > something like: [email protected]? >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >> [email protected] >> > > >wrote: >> > > >> > > > I have updated all apache-extras projects (replace dev@ with my >> email >> > or >> > > > Sebastian's email) >> > > > except for (no adminitration rights) >> > > > >> > https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/openmeetings-atutor-plugin >> > > > https://code.google.com/p/red5phone/ >> > > > >> > > > @Sebastian can you update these two? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:13 AM, [email protected] < >> > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> The OpenMeetings PMC agrees on disabling those notifications. >> > > >> Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it on its own. >> > > >> >> > > >> Sebastian >> > > >> Am 22.03.2013 05:34 schrieb "Luciano Resende" <[email protected] >> >: >> > > >> >> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:00 AM, [email protected] >> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in >> > those >> > > >> > emails. >> > > >> > > So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even >> code >> > > >> > fragments >> > > >> > > of GPL licensed code. >> > > >> > > So those emails could become what they initially should have >> been: >> > > >> Some >> > > >> > > simple notification of activity. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed >> or >> > > >> > archiving >> > > >> > > external activities. >> > > >> > > If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with >> > > those >> > > >> > > involved there. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going >> on >> > as >> > > >> we >> > > >> > > provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send >> those >> > > >> pings. >> > > >> > > Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are >> configured >> > > to >> > > >> > send a >> > > >> > > ping to our list when there was a SVN commit. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place >> to >> > > have >> > > >> > such >> > > >> > > a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings. >> > > >> > > There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly >> for >> > > >> > example a >> > > >> > > Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or >> > something >> > > >> like >> > > >> > > that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another >> mailing >> > > >> list to >> > > >> > > monitor :) >> > > >> > > It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my >> point >> > > of >> > > >> > view. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Sebastian >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is >> > > >> > >> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for >> > > >> > >> external development, legal issues notwithstanding. >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru < >> [email protected] >> > > >> > > >> > wrote: >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to >> > > follow >> > > >> > >> > external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an >> > > external >> > > >> > project's >> > > >> > >> > messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best >> practice, >> > to >> > > >> say >> > > >> > the >> > > >> > >> > least. >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that >> > > >> everything >> > > >> > >> > coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL. Thus, >> this >> > > >> seems >> > > >> > to >> > > >> > >> > violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL >> > is >> > > >> > Category X, >> > > >> > >> > which means that end users should be able to use Apache >> > projects >> > > >> and >> > > >> > >> > products without having to worry that GPL code is included - >> > > either >> > > >> > in the >> > > >> > >> > download, or in other places on our websites or mailing >> lists. >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > - Shane >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> > > >> > >> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has >> > > >> recently >> > > >> > >> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google >> > > Code >> > > >> > >> >> hosted >> > > >> > >> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those >> > updates >> > > >> are >> > > >> > >> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap >> in >> > > >> > >> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be >> distinct >> > > >> other >> > > >> > >> >> than >> > > >> > >> >> this cross-posting of commits. >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code >> > is >> > > >> > passing >> > > >> > >> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear >> > > >> indication >> > > >> > of >> > > >> > >> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my >> > > >> discomfort is >> > > >> > >> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using >> > GPL >> > > >> code >> > > >> > >> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational >> > fear. >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> Advice please? >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> Ross >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> -- >> > > >> > >> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >> > > >> > >> >> Programme Leader (Open Development) >> > > >> > >> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > We have had a similar discussion in the ComDev related to Apache >> > > >> > Extras [1], and the consensus at that time was that external >> > projects, >> > > >> > particular the ones that are not compatible with AL2, should be >> > > >> > managed separately, which means that we should not encourage PMCs >> to >> > > >> > have their official mailing lists receiving e-mails from other >> > > >> > non-Apache GPL projects. If individuals are interested on what's >> > going >> > > >> > on with external projects, they should subscribe to these projects >> > > >> > mailing list as an individual. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd-h4Q%3DcTEgGqCNEEninhVose8uiGt2gTK22n9cMr_kVyg%40mail.gmail.com%3E >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > -- >> > > >> > Luciano Resende >> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende >> > > >> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975 >> > > >> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > WBR >> > > > Maxim aka solomax >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > WBR >> > > Maxim aka solomax >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sebastian Wagner >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > [email protected] >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> WBR >> Maxim aka solomax >> > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > [email protected]
