OK, thanks Haven't read this :(
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>wrote: > I read Jim's concern below Sebastian's letter: > > > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> > > > IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, > > a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > > external development, legal issues notwithstanding. > -- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > wrote: > > @Alexei I'm afraid you are talking to wider list .... > > Could you please clarify what "As for Jim's concern"? > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > >> As for Jim's concern, I think commits can be redirected to commits@list. > >> -- > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> http://dataved.ru/ > >> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM, [email protected] > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in those > >> emails. > >> > So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even code > >> fragments > >> > of GPL licensed code. > >> > So those emails could become what they initially should have been: > Some > >> > simple notification of activity. > >> > > >> > We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed or > >> > archiving external activities. > >> > If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with those > >> > involved there. > >> > > >> > All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going on as > we > >> > provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using. > >> > > >> > There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send those > pings. > >> > Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are configured to > >> send a > >> > ping to our list when there was a SVN commit. > >> > > http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings > >> > > >> > It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place to have > >> such > >> > a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings. > >> > There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly for > >> example a > >> > Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or something > like > >> > that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another mailing > list to > >> > monitor :) > >> > It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my point of > >> view. > >> > > >> > Sebastian > >> > > >> > > >> > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> > >> > > >> >> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is > >> >> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > >> >> external development, legal issues notwithstanding. > >> >> > >> >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to follow > >> >> external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an external > >> >> project's messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best > practice, > >> >> to say the least. > >> >> > > >> >> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that > everything > >> >> coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL. Thus, this > seems to > >> >> violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL is > >> Category > >> >> X, which means that end users should be able to use Apache projects > and > >> >> products without having to worry that GPL code is included - either > in > >> the > >> >> download, or in other places on our websites or mailing lists. > >> >> > > >> >> > - Shane > >> >> > > >> >> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> >> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has > recently > >> >> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google Code > >> hosted > >> >> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those updates > are > >> >> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap in > >> >> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be distinct > other > >> than > >> >> >> this cross-posting of commits. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code is > >> passing > >> >> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear > indication > >> of > >> >> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my > discomfort is > >> >> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using GPL > code > >> >> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational fear. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Advice please? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ross > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > >> >> >> Programme Leader (Open Development) > >> >> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sebastian Wagner > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > WBR > > Maxim aka solomax > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
