What about network settings? We should have easy way to change them without starting OM.
2013/4/24 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > I'll vote for moving everything into DB > Appdisplay can be removed (in 3.0 in favor of CSS) > AvailableCamResolutions can be new tables like room types > > Client reload will still be necessary to renew the values (in 2.1.X) > > currentappname > currentappnameurl > can be dropped IMHO > other should be reviewed > > Who is going to implement this? > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > We also have some parameters which can't be moved to database in current > > implementation, for example "appdisplay", "availableCameraResolutions". > In > > my opinion all other parameters could be moved to database as needed. > > > > > > 2013/4/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > > I mostly agree. > > > > > > Maybe we should have several parameter groups - eg system parameters, > > those > > > to change with care > > > On Apr 24, 2013 2:32 PM, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > If that param is part of the Administration > Configuration I would > > > propose > > > > to have a general review which of those parameters of the config.xml. > > > > Maybe even more of them should be moved to the database then. > > > > > > > > This is our current client side config file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openmeetings/trunk/singlewebapp/WebContent/openmeetings/config.xml?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain > > > > > > > > Candidates the can be moved to the database are ... all ? > > > > > > > > I don't see a lot of sense if trying to follow two different > approaches > > > and > > > > having multiple places for config's. > > > > It will just lead to feedback that was given in the past like > > > "OpenMeetings > > > > configuration is spread around a dozen of files" > > > > > > > > Seems like a majority of people would prefer a database solution. > > > > > > > > So one potential fix or idea would be for example to create the > > > config.xml > > > > via a Servlet dynamically. > > > > > > > > That way the client can have still a very easy way of loading the > > config > > > > file by simply parsing it. > > > > And you can generate the config.xml dynamically on server side based > on > > > > database values. > > > > > > > > From that point of view _any_ value of the config.xml could > immediately > > > > move to the database. > > > > We just have to keep in mind that this config.xml can be retrieved > > > > anonymously, so it makes no sense to put any security sensible data > > into > > > > it. > > > > But it would for example simplify some of our current docs as there > is > > no > > > > separated configuration for client and server needed, like > potentially > > > the > > > > port configuration. > > > > > > > > Would do folks think about that idea? > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/4/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > @Sebastian > > > > > As for hardware, we used jabra. > > > > > On Apr 24, 2013 12:54 PM, "Vasya" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for database > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Vasiliy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24.04.2013 14:49, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I would prefer Admin->configuration since it is migrated while > OM > > > > > upgrades > > > > > >> But config.xml requires less code changes :) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM, [email protected] < > > > > > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The basic rule so far was to put client side/ UI / layout > > settings > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > >>> config.xml. > > > > > >>> The config.xml is parsed by both SWFs (SWF8 and SWF10) on > startup > > > one > > > > > >>> time. > > > > > >>> So it is also rather easy compared to have a database value > that > > > then > > > > > has > > > > > >>> to be somehow loaded to the client. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sebastian > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> 2013/4/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected]> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> What kind of solution would be better for switching codecs, > AEC, > > > EM > > > > > and > > > > > >>>> echo suppression: using config.xml or "Configuration" in the > > > > > >>>> "Administration" menu? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> 2013/4/23 Joseph Karwat <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> IMHO. When something does not work well users generally ask > for > > > > help > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> from > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> their service provider. In our shop our staff explains AEC > > issues > > > > to > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> end > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> users and works with them to resolve the issue. Having AEC as > > an > > > > easy > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> to > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> enable/disable user option, is very helpful in providing the > > type > > > of > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> end > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> user support that will enable widespread adoption of OM. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I'd be pleased to work with the group to formally test AEC > and > > > > > resolve > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> this > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> issue. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Joseph Karwat | 415-462-0263 | JellVideo | www.jellnet.com | > > > > > >>>>> JELL NETWORKS, INC. > > > > > >>>>> Enterprise Video Collaboration Solutions > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Click Here to Register for your JellVideo Collaboration > Account > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:53 AM > > > > > >>>>> To: dev > > > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: AEC in the new release > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> IMHO having yet another checkbox where the user can decide to > > > > enable > > > > > or > > > > > >>>>> disable AEC can be only an additional thing on top of a > general > > > > > system > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> wide > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> configuration. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> The problem with this is for example that the average user > does > > > not > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> even > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> know what AEC means. > > > > > >>>>> Or what is the difference between hardware echo cancellation > > and > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> software > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> echo cancellation ?! > > > > > >>>>> So what would be the benefit for him in having a checkbox > > tagged > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> "enabled > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> AEC" ? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> One of the concerns people have against OpenMeetings is its > > > > > complexity. > > > > > >>>>> They just want to conference and not bother around with a lot > > of > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> options. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> I would also not disable the AEC feature by default as long as > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> no > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> concrete use-case where AEC (or enhancedMicro mode) leads to > an > > > > > issue. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Same for h264. There was a discussion that included h264 a > > couple > > > > of > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> weeks > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> ago: > > > > > >>>>> http://markmail.org/message/**fctg6eo5qf5hhcaa< > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/fctg6eo5qf5hhcaa> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> The consens was: > > > > > >>>>> - The amount of CPU that our clients needed more was not > > > > > measurable. > > > > > >>>>> - There is no concrete use case where enabling or disabling > > > h264 > > > > > >>>>> would > > > > > >>>>> improve anything I agree that having a config for the Video > > > codec, > > > > > same > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> the Microphone Mode, would be nice. > > > > > >>>>> But changing any defaults now back and forth without concrete > > use > > > > > cases > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> some kind of test plan does not make a lot of sense to me. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> So what I would propose is: > > > > > >>>>> - Make Microphone and VideoCodec configurable and > documentate > > > > this > > > > > >>>>> - Set up a concrete test plan and communicate that through > > our > > > > > >>>>> mailing > > > > > >>>>> lists. > > > > > >>>>> Based on the feedback we might then discuss changing some > > > defaults. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Sebastian > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> 2013/4/23 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> My previous comment was regarding video codec Auto selecting > > > h264 > > > > > >>>>>> based on SIP setting is not a good idea IMHO > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>> [email protected] > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> Usually (for example, in Linphone) echo cancellation option > > is > > > > > >>>>>>> available for every user. In my opinion it would be better > to > > > > allow > > > > > >>>>>>> users to decide use echo cancellation or not because its > > > > efficiency > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> depends on hardware. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> 2013/4/23 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Maybe it is better to make it configurable somehow? > > config.xml > > > > is > > > > > >>>>>>>> good candidate IMHO > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko > > > > > >>>>>>>> <[email protected] > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hello, > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I suppose using h264 would be necessary only in SIP > rooms, > > > for > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> other > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> rooms - codec which used before (h263?). It avoids any > > > > > >>>>>>>>> suspections > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> about > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> h264 issues and increses performance. I'm also going to > > > > > >>>>>>>>> implement > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> switching > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> microphone mode in the audio/video test dialog. Is there > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> anybody > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> who disagree with this idea? > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2013/4/23 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> That would be great! > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2013 5:36 AM, "Maxim Solodovnik" > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> @Alexei this definitely can be done in realtime, BUT ... > > :) > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The setting affects Working microphone so it is > > impossible > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ON/OFF > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> it > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> while speaking :( > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The only option I can see is to add dropdown control to > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> testSetupDialog > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> (the one with choose camera and test recording). So we > can > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> have > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> something > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> like: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1) default system setting (can be moved to > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Admin->configuration > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> avoid > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> rewriting it after each upgrade) > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) per user setting stored in LocalData (like > > rememberLogin > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> default > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> cam/mic > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> etc.) > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> using above scheme user can change the setting while > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> entering the > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> room > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> "re-sync" audio/video > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Joseph Karwat < > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> We tested AEC out-of-the-box. We just installed and > ran > > a > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> meeting > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> in > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> OM2.1- Litle or no echo. We then, using the exact same > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> configuration, > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> logged in to an OM2.0 server and ran a meeting. We > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> experienced > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> substantial > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> echo. We were both running a PC with Flash echo > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> cancellation on > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> no > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> hardware echo cancelation. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also for OM2.1 Where do I set the buffer lenghth? Are > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> any > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> other > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> parameters/options I should know about? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph Karwat | CEO | 415-462-0263 | JellVideo | > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> www.jellnet.com| > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> JELL NETWORKS, INC. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise Video Collaboration Solutions > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Click Here to Register for your JellVideo > Collaboration > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Account > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail. > > **com< > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ] > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:49 PM > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: AEC in the new release > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph, which devices show improvement? Which buffer > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> length did > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> you > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> use? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I like the suggestion - Maxim, how is it possible to > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> configure > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> AEC > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> in > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> realtime? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2013 11:30 PM, "Joseph Karwat" > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> We have a test OM2.1 server installed at AWS running > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbuntu > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 12.04. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> We tested AEC this morning for the first time and it > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> did > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> seem > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> make > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the audio work very well. Little if no echo. We still > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> test > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> under a wide range of scenarios, but we are encouraged > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> by the performance this morning. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do make it a configurable setting. It should > be > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> an > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> option > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> when > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> setting up the room or allow the individual user to > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enable/disabe > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> AEC > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> when in a conference room. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Making it a system-wide configuration option will > delay > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> testing > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> and > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> adoption. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We will be conducting further testing of AEC over the > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> few > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> days > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and will report back with our findings. Anyone wishing > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> participate > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in our AEC testing is encouraged to contact me. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph Karwat |415-462-0263 | JellVideo | > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jellnet.com | > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> JELL > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> NETWORKS, INC. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise Video Collaboration Solutions > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Click Here to Register for your JellVideo > Collaboration > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Account > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail. > > **com< > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ] > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:49 AM > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev; [email protected] > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AEC in the new release > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no answers. My point here is that we can be > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sure > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> that > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> today AEC does not work as expected, and provides > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> distinctive > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> high > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quality echo in 100% of situations when users use > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> separate > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dynamic > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> microphone systems. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The new thing is AEC mechanism sometimes meddles with > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hardware > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> echo > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> cancellation support providing temporary sound outages. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> also > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> provides visible de-synchronization between sound and > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> video > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> channels. > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If someone has a different experience, please, speak > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> up. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> So I have two ideas to speak of. 1. Disable AEC in > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> openmeetings > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> releases by default. It takes a simple configuration > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> change > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> enable > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it. 2. Later understand when AEC really works, and fix > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> Folks, please again let me know if you disagree and > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> beneficial > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AEC experience. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedotov > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> / > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Алексей > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Alexei Fedotov > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello guys, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How AEC (acoustic echo cancellation) works for you > in > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> new > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> release? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone share usage experience? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedotov > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> / > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> WBR > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>>>>> WBR > > > > > >>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>>> WBR > > > > > >>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_**lock < > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > > >>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.**com < > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> [email protected] > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > >>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_**lock < > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > > > > > > > >>> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > > >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.**com < > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > > > > > > >>> [email protected] > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax >
