On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:30 AM, jan iversen <j...@apache.org> wrote: > If it is easier, we could keep the binary, and just release language > packs....a bit more uncomfortable but still an official release ! >
I'm just thinking ahead, to the very real possibility that we're adding new languages on a continual basis until we're shipping 100+ of them. If that happens we're going to create absolute chaos if we encoding version changes in a way that appears externally to scripts, extensions, in documents, to upgrade servers, etc. It will lead to a proliferation of version strings that will destroy us all. This is what the Mayans were warning us about !!! (OK, maybe not that bad, but it would be quite a mess) But if we can consider these new languages to be merely the continuation of the 3.4.1 release, and an keep the external behavior of the program the same, then live is easy. We can release full versions of Danish, etc., 3.4.1. All we need to do is vote on a new source tarball which could be called AOO341-danish-patch.tgz or whatever. -Rob > Jan. > > On 23 November 2012 15:01, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is >> > growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible >> > available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available >> > in further languages to reach more users. Second to show our volunteers >> > that their work is appreciated and become integrated as soon as >> > possible. We don't have a well defined process for doing it at moment >> > but we will find a working way that will be ok for all of us. And we can >> > improve it over time when see demand for changes or improvements, means >> > we don't have to find a 100% perfect solution from the beginning. >> > >> > The most important part is how we do the naming of the different parts >> > of such a release. >> > >> > I see two different scenarios: >> > >> > 1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes >> > We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the >> > office with the new languages and release the new languages as >> > convenience binary packages. We also build a new src release package and >> > add the revision number in the name to identify a respin of the orginal >> > 3.4.1. >> > >> > For example: aoo-3.4.1-rev1372282-src.tar.bz2 >> > >> > This new src release becomes the default for 3.4.1 because it is a >> > respin only (no functional changes) >> > >> > The revision number is part of the about dialog as well and it is >> > possible to identify the respin. >> > >> >> If we change the about dialog does this change anything else? For >> example, does it change what is written into ODF documents for the >> creator string? Does it cause AOO to report a different version to >> scripts? If we change anything more than the UI strings we risk >> breaking 3rd party scripts who have logic tied to 3.4.0 or 3.4.1. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> > >> > 2. New languages + bug-fixes or security fixes >> > The micro number will be increased and we do a normal release cycle. >> > The src release will contain the revision number in future always. >> > >> > >> > >> > Concrete proposal for 3.4.1 and new languages: >> > >> > 1. set a deadline for new translations, for exmaple December 31, 2012 >> > 2. integrate the new languages and provide the builds until January 10, >> 2013 >> > 3. test and verify the new language builds asap >> > 4. release the new languages at the end of January >> > >> > >> > Why a deadline until December: >> > The reason is quite simply, we have 22 languages with an UI coverage of >> > more than 95% (ok Turkish 93%). My plan is to prepare a blog entry and >> > call again for volunteers for these languages where the effort is >> > moderate. My hope is that we can integrate a few of the important ones. >> > >> > UI coverage with more than 93% >> > ============================== >> > 100%: Danish >> > 98%: Korean, Polish, Asturian, Uighur, Icelandic, Indonesian, Welsh, >> > Catalan, Bulgarian, Latvian >> > 97%: Greek, Basque >> > 96%: English (South Africa) >> > 95%: Portuguese, Swedish, Marathi, Kannada, Gujarati, Irish, Oriya >> > 93%: Turkish >> > >> > >> > Juergen >>
