On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile <arie...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 02:13:49PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>> Any opinions, concerns or feedback? Follow up discussion should take
>>>>>> place on the dev list only (the list where decisions are made).
>>>>>
>>>>> It may be a good idea to build all languages, or at least those with 80%
>>>>> of the UI translated, but release only those with 100%; we could leave
>>>>> the rest in people.apache.org as unofficial builds (at least langpacks),
>>>>> and point people to them instead of you-know-what http://s.apache.org/yY
>>>>
>>>> We can't do that.  We either release or we don't release a language.
>>>> If we're not releasing it then we should not be pointing users to it
>>>> on people.apache.org.   This is an issue both from Apache release
>>>> policy and Infra policy (bandwidth issues).
>>>
>>> Change people.apache.org for apache-extras or any other place. The idea
>>> is having all language packs built, not advertising them on our website
>>> (that said, note that the dev. snapshots hosted on people.apache.org are
>>> advertised on the main download page ;) ). And the goal is to point them
>>> to user when they ask, or list them on the porting page, or using them
>>> for ongoing translation efforts, etc.
>>
>>
>> If we want something to be downloaded and used by the public then we
>> should release it, period.  We should not be looking for clever ways
>> to avoid the important release steps of verifying IP, producing a
>> source package and voting on it.
>
> It seems you are mixing things, as I only proposed to build all language
> packages, while following the same release criteria as before (release
> only languages with 100% UI and a localization team backing it). Where
> do you see a clever way to avoid official procedures in this?
>

When you suggested that we point users to these un-released binaries.


> In the end, it's just the same as I've done with the linux glib-2.5
> build, which is advertised in the portings page, and stored at
> people.apache.org... I haven't heard any complaints about this, so far
> only some people thankful
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119385#c13
>

Perhaps we should start looking at such pseudo releases more carefully?


> If I have the time, and the will to do so with the language packs, there
> is nothing that prevents me for doing so.
>
>> This is what it means to be an Apache project.
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina

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