On 6 February 2013 17:33, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:45 AM, RA Stehmann
> <anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote:
> > Am 06.02.2013 14:43, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >> Yes, yes, we're a non-profit organization.  We don't charge for Apache
> >> OpenOffice.  We don't pay developers.    But we still do produce
> >> something of value, and that value can be estimated.
> >>
> >> People need office productivity software.  The main alternative to
> >> OpenOffice is Microsoft Office, perhaps the "Home and Student"
> >> edition.  The latest version (2013) sells for $139.99 on Amazon.  This
> >> is for the downloadable version.
> >>
> >> We have averaged 153K downloads per day of Apace OpenOffice over the
> >> last week.  That is an average value to the public of $21.5 million
> >> per day.  Or $7.833 billion (7.833 thousand million) per year.
> >>
> >> To put that in perspective, here are comparable annual sales figures
> >> for some familiar companies:
> >>
> >> -- Campbell Soup Company:  $7.882 billion
> >> -- Royal Caribbean Cruises:   $7.657 billion
> >> -- Mastercard, Inc:                $7.391 billion
> >> -- OfficeMax:                        $7.094 billion
> >>
> >>
> >> So we're providing tremendous value to the public.  We should be proud
> >> of what we've accomplished over the past decade.
> >>
> >> Note:  We could certainly debate the exact value provided to users.
> >> Determining what a user would do if they did not get AOO for free is
> >> tricky.  But the logic above is similar to how the BSA estimates
> >> losses to Microsoft from software piracy.  They assume that the person
> >> who pirates Office would buy it if they did not pirate it.  So it
> >> seems fair to use that same logic to estimate the value provided to
> >> users by a legal free alternative like Apache OpenOffice.
> >>
> >
> > Freedom is far to expensive.
> >
> > (I think you have to multiply the download figures, because people have
> > the really used right to share AOO and they have the right to install it
> > on any number of computers.)
> >
>
> Of course, Microsoft also has multi-user and multi-PC licenses as
> well, which sell at a discount to the price of a single-user license.
> So it is not strictly a multiplication.  But it does make our value a
> little greater.  We also have Base and Draw, so we have additional
> applications than just Home and Business has, but we're not quite
> Office Professional since we don't have Publisher.
>
> But I think the numbers are a good rough estimate.
>
> -Rob
>
@Rob.

Nice work as usual, digging out these numbers. I think however (along the
lines of Dave) that this is realy something the press could use for a good
story, and it would be so much better to tell it to the world, instead of
just us in here (we already know we provide a great service).

I can already see the title "how non-profit organisations help goverments
and companies save billions to counter the crisis". Any reporter would like
that :-)

rgds
Jan I


>
> > Regards
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
>

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