On 6 February 2013 17:50, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > On 6 February 2013 17:33, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:45 AM, RA Stehmann > >> <anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote: > >> > Am 06.02.2013 14:43, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> >> Yes, yes, we're a non-profit organization. We don't charge for > Apache > >> >> OpenOffice. We don't pay developers. But we still do produce > >> >> something of value, and that value can be estimated. > >> >> > >> >> People need office productivity software. The main alternative to > >> >> OpenOffice is Microsoft Office, perhaps the "Home and Student" > >> >> edition. The latest version (2013) sells for $139.99 on Amazon. > This > >> >> is for the downloadable version. > >> >> > >> >> We have averaged 153K downloads per day of Apace OpenOffice over the > >> >> last week. That is an average value to the public of $21.5 million > >> >> per day. Or $7.833 billion (7.833 thousand million) per year. > >> >> > >> >> To put that in perspective, here are comparable annual sales figures > >> >> for some familiar companies: > >> >> > >> >> -- Campbell Soup Company: $7.882 billion > >> >> -- Royal Caribbean Cruises: $7.657 billion > >> >> -- Mastercard, Inc: $7.391 billion > >> >> -- OfficeMax: $7.094 billion > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> So we're providing tremendous value to the public. We should be > proud > >> >> of what we've accomplished over the past decade. > >> >> > >> >> Note: We could certainly debate the exact value provided to users. > >> >> Determining what a user would do if they did not get AOO for free is > >> >> tricky. But the logic above is similar to how the BSA estimates > >> >> losses to Microsoft from software piracy. They assume that the > person > >> >> who pirates Office would buy it if they did not pirate it. So it > >> >> seems fair to use that same logic to estimate the value provided to > >> >> users by a legal free alternative like Apache OpenOffice. > >> >> > >> > > >> > Freedom is far to expensive. > >> > > >> > (I think you have to multiply the download figures, because people > have > >> > the really used right to share AOO and they have the right to install > it > >> > on any number of computers.) > >> > > >> > >> Of course, Microsoft also has multi-user and multi-PC licenses as > >> well, which sell at a discount to the price of a single-user license. > >> So it is not strictly a multiplication. But it does make our value a > >> little greater. We also have Base and Draw, so we have additional > >> applications than just Home and Business has, but we're not quite > >> Office Professional since we don't have Publisher. > >> > >> But I think the numbers are a good rough estimate. > >> > >> -Rob > >> > > @Rob. > > > > Nice work as usual, digging out these numbers. I think however (along the > > lines of Dave) that this is realy something the press could use for a > good > > story, and it would be so much better to tell it to the world, instead of > > just us in here (we already know we provide a great service). > > > > I can already see the title "how non-profit organisations help goverments > > and companies save billions to counter the crisis". Any reporter would > like > > that :-) > > > > OK. I'll form this into a blog post. > just a question, does ASF / AOO never do press releases, I am used to that e.g. a blog post goes hand in hand with a press release. But I am not sure what the politics are in ASF.
We also had our respin, which we did not even publish internally in asf, and I see other projects write a lot about their releases. rgds Jan I. > > -Rob > > > > rgds > > Jan I > > > > > >> > >> > Regards > >> > Michael > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >