On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 11/12/13 4:48 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2013 6:37 AM, "Jürgen Schmidt" <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 11/10/13 8:06 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Ricardo Berlasso > >>> <rgb.m...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>> > >>>> 2013/11/3 Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> > >>>> > >>> Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >>>>>>> Comparing http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html > >>>>>>> and https://translate.apache.org/projects/aoo40/ I see that > >>>>>>> we have: - Two unreleased languages that are now 100% > >>>>>>> translated (Bulgarian and Danish) - One language with only > >>>>>>> about 1000 words left and activity in the last week > >>>>>>> (Norwegian Bokmal) - Three languages with about 4000 words > >>>>>>> left and activity in the last week (Thai, Uighur, Hebrew; > >>>>>>> Indonesian and Icelandic are in the same group, but less > >>>>>>> active) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Would it make sense to schedule a "language update" 4.0.1 > >>>>>>> release for late November? I mean something like: announce > >>>>>>> a translation deadline on the l10n list, produce SDF files > >>>>>>> for the languages that reach 100% (which of course already > >>>>>>> include Bulgarian and Danish, and hopefully some of the > >>>>>>> other languages listed above), building only those > >>>>>>> languages and releasing an updated source package and > >>>>>>> binaries for those languages. > >>>>>>> > >>> Yes I believe that it would make sense and would add to our > >>> reputation for actively supporting native languages. > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Indeed. +1 from my part for a language update to 4.0.1. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, Ricardo > >>>>> > >>> > >>>> +1 > >>> > >>>> I also think this would be a good idea...hopefully our Release > >>>> Manager will comment soon. > >> > >> In general I am always a fan of having further languages available as > >> soon as possible. But we are still in the situation that our builds > >> and releases take some time. We have no Mac build bot and we don't > >> have Linux systems that can build against our currently existing > >> baseline. > > > > I know we don't have a Mac buildbot but what is meant by the Linux > comment. > > The last I saw 32-bit nightly was OK. 64-bit success seems intermittent. > Is > > this what you mean? > > as far as I know the build bots are based on newer systems (Ubuntu 12.04 > for 32 bit and 10.04 for 64bit). We build on an older CentOS 5.10 system > which is comaptible to RedHat Enterprise Linux 5. This ensures that our > builds can be used on more different Linux systems. > > Juergen > OK. I think I will start a new thread on Linux builds -- specifically "deliverables". We need to gain clarity on what is going on here, I think. > > > > > All this should be taken into account and even a language > >> update requires some time and we should think careful if we want to do > >> it for 2 languages only. > >> > >> I we can complete at least 5 languages until end of Nov. we can make > >> language update only. Means we will release only this new languages on > >> the AOO401 branch + a new source release. The same as we did for 3.4.1 > >> where we released 12 new languages. > >> > >> And this is only a time limiting factor because many other things are > >> to do and we already started thinking about a 4.1 release. > >> > >> But I am open and in the end I won't be the limiting element here even > >> if I ave to do major parts of such a release > >> > >> Juergen > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> It would make more snse > >>>>>>> So this would work like we did for 3.4.1 when we added new > >>>>>>> languages. Why not call it 4.0.2? Well, we already > >>>>>>> discussed it, but the main reasons would be: for the > >>>>>>> languages already released in 4.0.1, 4.0.2 would be > >>>>>>> identical (example: 4.0.1 in French would be identical to > >>>>>>> 4.0.2 in French) since all commits in the meantime have > >>>>>>> been done to trunk; a new 4.0.2 release takes a much > >>>>>>> larger effort than a 4.0.1 language update, so it is harder > >>>>>>> to find volunteers and this is worth doing only if we have > >>>>>>> some important bugfixes for 4.0.1 to include (and I don't > >>>>>>> see any at the moment). > >>>>>>> > >>> It would make more sense for it to be 4.0.1 unless there were > >>> critical bug fixes that would justify a 4.0.2. The only potential > >>> glitch that I see is handling the release notes. I have a couple of > >>> ideas that I will lay out in a separate thread if we decide to go > >>> ahead with a language only release. > >>> > >>> Regards Keith > >>>>>>> Regards, Andrea. > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>> dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax
