On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On 11 December 2013 20:57, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Gregory Zobel <zob...@wou.edu> wrote: >>>>> I'd be happy to help develop the survey questions. >>>>> We could devise probably 4-7 more questions without users resisting too >>>>> much--long surveys annoy users. Ending with a couple of open-ended >>>>> questions: what is most frustrating to you about AOO? what do you like >>>> most >>>>> about AOO? could also shed some light. >>>>> >>>>> From what I can tell, ASF has a policy of open content, open source, and >>>> it >>>>> would follow that open data is a part of this. It might be possible to >>>> get >>>>> engagement from parts of the academic usability community (i.e. analysis >>>>> and discussion of what the different results mean, what to adjust, as >>>> well >>>>> as promoting AOO in academia) by sharing the usability responses/results >>>>> openly. >>>>> >>>>> Just an idea. I know when I was training, it was hard to find usability >>>>> data because most entities protect it like IP--can't give results, >>>>> shortcomings, or improvements. Having the data would also be nice. >>>>> >>>> >>>> We take user privacy seriously as well. Even though we're a US-based >>>> non-profit we know that data protection laws vary and are stronger in >>>> Europe, where many of our users are. So if we anticipate that we'll >>>> want to make the raw survey results open (as opposite to just >>>> aggregate summarize) we'll need to think about what additional steps >>>> will be needed. For example, I usually track IP addresses in >>>> LimeSurvey to detect multiple submissions. > > You can't depend on IP Filtering if you are going through a NAT. > >>>> We'd need to strip that >>>> out of any publicly released data. We'd also need a prominent >>>> disclaimer/notice to the user, stating how the data will be used. >>>> >>> >>> I am not sure how known it is, but just in case: >>> >>> the european laws on this subject got more strict about 1 year ago. Now a >>> disclaimer is not enough, the user most positively accept it (checkbox is >>> valid). It the cookie story all over. >>> >> >> That could be implemented as a question in the survey, say the last question. > > As long as it happens before any data is collected and the user explicitly > opts-in. >
I think you need to do it as the last question, otherwise they don't know what information we're collecting, because they have not seen the other questions yet. -Rob > Good ideas and I love the open data concept! > > Regards, > Dave > >> >> -Rob >> >> >>> rgds >>> jan I. >>> >>>> >>>> When we did the logo survey (results here [1]) we received over 5000 >>>> responses in one week. So there is an opportunity to get a >>>> substantial number of responses. >>>> >>>> If you want to start designing the survey questions a good place for >>>> this might be on the UX section of our wiki [2]. Maybe a new page >>>> linked to the UX Research Strategy page? Then send a link to that >>>> page to the dev mailing list and anyone interested can follow along >>>> and help. I'll volunteer to translate the survey design into >>>> LimeSurvey. If we keep it short it should be possible to then get it >>>> translated into a handful of languages. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/ >>>> >>>> [2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience >>>> >>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> gz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Gregory Zobel <zob...@wou.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Rob, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the idea of a satisfaction survey. I would suggest using an >>>>>> industry >>>>>>> standard, the SUS. >>>>>>> http://www.measuringusability.com/sus.php >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's been around for 25 years or so, it has provided reliable metrics, >>>>>> and >>>>>>> it could prove to be a rich data source. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for passing that link along. The SUS approach might be even >>>>>> more interesting to apply to a satisfaction survey of the OpenOffice >>>>>> product itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing to know: we do have access to a LimeSurvey instance >>>>>> (http://survey.openoffice.org). We used it most-recently to gather >>>>>> feedback for our AOO 4.0 logo contest. But it would be easy to use it >>>>>> for a SUS survey as well. The advantage with LimeSurvey is it makes >>>>>> it really easy to manage multiple translations of the survey, >>>>>> something nice with our international user based. >>>>>> >>>>>> If we did this survey, what other questions would we want to ask, to >>>>>> give data to correlate against? Maybe demographic factors like age, >>>>>> sex, country. Maybe operating system used (usability might vary by >>>>>> OS), certainly what version of OpenOffice is used, how long they have >>>>>> been using OpenOffice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> -Rob >>>>>> >>>>>>> Another alternative is to create the survey in Google Forms and then >>>>>> embed >>>>>>> it on sub-page. I've used this approach in many classes taught online, >>>>>> and >>>>>>> it goes pretty well. Plus you get more questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> gz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Google has a new service that makes it easy to add a website >>>>>>>> satisfaction survey to a website. The free version has 4 questions >>>>>>>> that are asked of 500 random website visitors each month. We would >>>> be >>>>>>>> given results on a monthly basis. (They also have a paid version of >>>>>>>> this service where you can customize the questions, but I think the >>>>>>>> free version is fine for our use). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The questions are: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I. Overall, how satisfied are you with this website? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Very satisfied >>>>>>>> 2) Somewhat satisfied >>>>>>>> 3) Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied >>>>>>>> 4) Somewhat dissatisfied >>>>>>>> 5) Very dissatisfied >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> II. What, if anything, do you find frustrating or unappealing about >>>>>>>> this website? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> III. What is your main reason for visiting this website today? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IV. Did you successfully complete your main reason for visiting this >>>>>>>> website today? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Yes, I was successful >>>>>>>> 2) I'm still completing my reason for visiting >>>>>>>> 3) No, I tried but wasn't successful >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can see an example of what the survey looks like here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/insights/consumersurveys/websat_example >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adding it to the website is easy: a single line added to the header. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Gregory B. Zobel, Ph.D. >>>>>>> Assistant Professor of Educational Technology >>>>>>> MSEd Program Coordinator >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Western Oregon University >>>>>>> 345 N. 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