On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 11 December 2013 20:57, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Gregory Zobel <zob...@wou.edu> wrote:
>>>>> I'd be happy to help develop the survey questions.
>>>>> We could devise probably 4-7 more questions without users resisting too
>>>>> much--long surveys annoy users. Ending with a couple of open-ended
>>>>> questions: what is most frustrating to you about AOO? what do you like
>>>> most
>>>>> about AOO? could also shed some light.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I can tell, ASF has a policy of open content, open source, and
>>>> it
>>>>> would follow that open data is a part of this. It might be possible to
>>>> get
>>>>> engagement from parts of the academic usability community (i.e. analysis
>>>>> and discussion of what the different results mean, what to adjust, as
>>>> well
>>>>> as promoting AOO in academia) by sharing the usability responses/results
>>>>> openly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just an idea. I know when I was training, it was hard to find usability
>>>>> data because most entities protect it like IP--can't give results,
>>>>> shortcomings, or improvements. Having the data would also be nice.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We take user privacy seriously as well.  Even though we're a US-based
>>>> non-profit we know that data protection laws vary and are stronger in
>>>> Europe, where many of our users are.  So if we anticipate that we'll
>>>> want to make the raw survey results open (as opposite to just
>>>> aggregate summarize) we'll need to think about what additional steps
>>>> will be needed.   For example, I usually track IP addresses in
>>>> LimeSurvey to detect multiple submissions.
>
> You can't depend on IP Filtering if you are going through a NAT.
>
>>>>  We'd need to strip that
>>>> out of any publicly released data.  We'd also need a prominent
>>>> disclaimer/notice to the user, stating how the data will be used.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure how known it is, but just in case:
>>>
>>> the european laws on this subject got more strict about 1 year ago. Now a
>>> disclaimer is not enough, the user most positively accept it (checkbox is
>>> valid). It the cookie story all over.
>>>
>>
>> That could be implemented as a question in the survey, say the last question.
>
> As long as it happens before any data is collected and the user explicitly 
> opts-in.
>

I think you need to do it as the last question, otherwise they don't
know what information we're collecting, because they have not seen the
other questions yet.

-Rob


> Good ideas and I love the open data concept!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan I.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> When we did the logo survey (results here [1]) we received over 5000
>>>> responses in one week.  So there is an opportunity to get a
>>>> substantial number of responses.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to start designing the survey questions a good place for
>>>> this might be on the UX section of our wiki [2].  Maybe a new page
>>>> linked to the UX Research Strategy page?  Then send a link to that
>>>> page to the dev mailing list and anyone interested can follow along
>>>> and help.   I'll volunteer to translate the survey design into
>>>> LimeSurvey.  If we keep it short it should be possible to then get it
>>>> translated into a handful of languages.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/
>>>>
>>>> [2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> gz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Gregory Zobel <zob...@wou.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the idea of a satisfaction survey. I would suggest using an
>>>>>> industry
>>>>>>> standard, the SUS.
>>>>>>> http://www.measuringusability.com/sus.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's been around for 25 years or so, it has provided reliable metrics,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it could prove to be a rich data source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for passing that link along.  The SUS approach might be even
>>>>>> more interesting to apply to a satisfaction survey of the OpenOffice
>>>>>> product itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing to know:  we do have access to a LimeSurvey instance
>>>>>> (http://survey.openoffice.org).  We used it most-recently to gather
>>>>>> feedback for our AOO 4.0 logo contest.  But it would be easy to use it
>>>>>> for a SUS survey as well.  The advantage with LimeSurvey is it makes
>>>>>> it really easy to manage multiple translations of the survey,
>>>>>> something nice with our international user based.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we did this survey, what other questions would we want to ask, to
>>>>>> give data to correlate against?   Maybe demographic factors like age,
>>>>>> sex, country.  Maybe operating system used (usability might vary by
>>>>>> OS), certainly what version of OpenOffice is used, how long they have
>>>>>> been using OpenOffice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another alternative is to create the survey in Google Forms and then
>>>>>> embed
>>>>>>> it on sub-page. I've used this approach in many classes taught online,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it goes pretty well. Plus you get more questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> gz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Google has a new service that makes it easy to add a website
>>>>>>>> satisfaction survey to a website.  The free version has 4 questions
>>>>>>>> that are asked of 500 random website visitors each month.  We would
>>>> be
>>>>>>>> given results on a monthly basis.  (They also have a paid version of
>>>>>>>> this service where you can customize the questions, but I think the
>>>>>>>> free version is fine for our use).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The questions are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I. Overall, how satisfied are you with this website?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Very satisfied
>>>>>>>> 2) Somewhat satisfied
>>>>>>>> 3) Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied
>>>>>>>> 4) Somewhat dissatisfied
>>>>>>>> 5) Very dissatisfied
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> II. What, if anything, do you find frustrating or unappealing about
>>>>>>>> this website?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> III. What is your main reason for visiting this website today?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IV. Did you successfully complete your main reason for visiting this
>>>>>>>> website today?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Yes, I was successful
>>>>>>>> 2) I'm still completing my reason for visiting
>>>>>>>> 3) No, I tried but wasn't successful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can see an example of what the survey looks like here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/insights/consumersurveys/websat_example
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adding it to the website is easy:  a single line added to the header.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
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>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Gregory B. Zobel, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Assistant Professor of Educational Technology
>>>>>>> MSEd Program Coordinator
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>>>>> Assistant Professor of Educational Technology
>>>>> MSEd Program Coordinator
>>>>>
>>>>> Western Oregon University
>>>>> 345 N. Monmouth Ave
>>>>> Monmouth, OR 97361
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