On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 22:41:19 +0800
imacat <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> wrote:

>     (I did not see any reason this discussion should go private, so I
> moved it to public.)

There is some additional information in this thread on the en-Forum
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=77517

Rory O'Farrell

> 
>     As far as I read, the GIMP team had never opt-in distributing
> adwares/malwares.  They did agree to share SF.net's ad profit, but not
> bundling adwares/malwares with their installers.  And SF.net did
> hijacked GIMP for Windows without authors' consent.
> 
> Goodbye, SourceForge.
> https://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/
> 
> Anatomy of SourceForge/GIMP controversy (from GIMP team)
> http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy
> 
> What happened to Sourceforge? (from VLC developer)
> https://blog.l0cal.com/2015/06/02/what-happened-to-sourceforge/
> 
>     I looked into which projects SF.net hijacked, and surprisingly found
> Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Firefox, MySQL,
> PostgreSQL, Nmap, The R-project.
> 
> Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Nmap, R
> http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor3/profile/
> 
> GIMP, VLC
> http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/profile/
> 
> Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL
> http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor/profile/
> 
>     So who's next?  Apache OpenOffice?  When will there be a new
> malware/adware-enabled Apache OpenOfffice installer?  I suppose we
> should move from SF.net to a trustworthy mirror solution.
> 
> Roberto Galoppini on 2015/06/02 04:50 said:
> > Hi again Louis,
> > 
> > 2015-06-01 21:47 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>:
> > 
> >> Hi Roberto,
> >> See these:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
> >>
> > 
> > It's not up-to-date, GIMP (and every other mirror project) has been
> > unbundled few days ago. Just as I stated above. Also if you follow dev@ you
> > know that by the facts we remove unwanted or misleading ads in hours.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> http://danluu.com/slashdot-sourceforge/
> >>
> > 
> > It seems like this is not up-to-date too, as far as I know Slashdot editor
> > after the week-end catched up with everything, included this. Of course
> > there is as usual space for conspirancy theories, but you understand I
> > can't help with that.
> > 
> > Unless you have something else I think I've covered everything, if you or
> > someone else has more questions I'll be happy to answer.
> > 
> > Roberto
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> I don’t think that seeing this as a "fuss" and deprecating it as
> >> unimportant or trivial (in some way) either because it’s a storm in a
> >> teacup or old news or misinterpreted news is useful to us or to SF.
> >>
> >> louis
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:31, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Louis,
> >>>
> >>>  I'm pretty sure I've read most of it, not sure to which one you're
> >> referring to.
> >>>  But yes, I'm pretty sure that was done with only (very) few SourceForge
> >> abandoned project for just some days.
> >>>
> >>>  Roberto
> >>>
> >>> 2015-06-01 21:25 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>:
> >>> Roberto,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Surely you have also gone over the US press and now also reddit
> >> discussions? In which it seems as if SF is not always waiting for
> >> abandonment?
> >>>
> >>> louis
> >>>> On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:23, Roberto Galoppini <
> >> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a quick clarification on the topic. Not long time ago Simon
> >> himself wrote an article saying good things of the DevShare program, see
> >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610419/open-source-software/retro-repo-sourceforge-learns-new-tricks.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Having said that, recently SourceForge tested the program on few
> >> SourceForge projects that were abandoned by the original developers and
> >> kept updated by our editorial team or bots. Given the community reactions
> >> the company decided to quit such tests for good.
> >>>>
> >>>> A company statement clarifying it further will be made public soon,
> >> beyond the fuss nothing has really changed as of now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Roberto
> >>>>
> >>>> 2015-06-01 20:40 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> >>>> Just a FYI:
> >>>>
> >>>>         https://twitter.com/webmink/status/605422600970510338
> >>>>
> >>>> I fully expect that somehow this will be used as ammunition
> >>>> against AOO, due to our "reliance" on them as a major download
> >>>> partner.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It sounds like they are recycling old news or something.  The whole
> >> opt-in advertising brouhaha occurred a few years ago,   We did not opt-in,
> >> so it was not an issue for us.  Sounds like GIMP first opted-in, then
> >> opted-out, but it is not clear whether as a community they spoke with one
> >> voice and whether it was clear to SF whose voice represented the
> >> community.   Apache projects have a governance model and a decision making
> >> process that makes that kind of misunderstanding less likely.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Rob
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> 
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