> On Oct 16, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> 
> The next bump for AOO to 4.2.0 also includes a number of
> other "gotchas" related to macOS. For example, QtKit in 10.12
> is deprecated and removed, meaning that we cannot build the
> avmedia component using any SDK older than 10.12. plus, we
> cannot build with anything older than a 10.9 SDK due to
> C++ compatibility changes.
> 
> Basically, the macOS port is gonna require a bit of
> TLC.

I am willing to put some time into making the process smooth.

> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I’m not ready to build at the moment.
>> 
>> Some observations about macOS - The way our Mac versions work on the latest 
>> macOS releases is problematic in several ways. This issue adds one more 
>> tricky point.
>> 
>> (1) We do not sign with an Apple Developer account.
>> (2) Security Preferences need to be adjusted to open OpenOffice.
>> (3) Because of (1) and (2) you have to use Control-click to open OpenOffice.
>> (4) If you have Microsoft Word installed then it wants to open ODT files if 
>> you double-click on them.
> 
> This can easily be changed w/ a Get Info on a ODT file and
> then choosing AOO to open those file types.

Yes and change all seems to work.

> 
>> (5) To install from the DMG drag and drop no longer works. You have to Copy 
>> and Paste to the Applications folder.
> 
> Hmmm. I can't recreate that. Is this High Sierra?

Sierra. Pressing on the OpenOffice icon shows a pop-up.

Regards,
Dave

> 
>> 
>> One goal for 4.2 should be to fix all of these issues.
>> 
>> The trouble is somewhere after the window and the lock file are created.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
>>> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the 
>>> other way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code 
>>> change or a build process change.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With RC4 -
>>>> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
>>>>> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
>>>>> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.<filename># has been 
>>>>> created with a length of 129
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
>>>>> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
>>>>> <file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4>;
>>>>> 
>>>>> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
>>>>> 
>>>>> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
>>>>> are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and 
>>>>> jars do differ.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:j...@jagunet.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> should do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie 
>>>>>>> <mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>>>>>>> Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com <mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
>>>>>>>>> Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com <mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>>>>>  I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
>>>>>>>>>> can follow instruction
>>>>>>>>>>  for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, 
>>>>>>>>> based on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the 
>>>>>>>>> current Mac operating system is a form of linux.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
>>>>>>>>> run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
>>>>>>>>> finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
>>>>>>>>> debugging.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later 
>>>>>>>> and try to get more
>>>>>>>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS 
>>>>>>>> High Sierra, which i
>>>>>>>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
>>>>>>> list member can assist.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> _________________________________
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>>>>>>>> 
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