I'm also spinning up a 10.13/High Sierra VM for testing...

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> 
> Am 16.10.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not
>> the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on macOS.
> 
> +1
> 
> For the moment the easiest and fastest way.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5.
>>> 
>>> Would it make sense to do a rebuild and provide some rebuilt binaries
>>> to test?
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
>>>> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the 
>>>> other way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code 
>>>> change or a build process change.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With RC4 -
>>>>> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
>>>>>> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
>>>>>> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.<filename># has been 
>>>>>> created with a length of 129
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
>>>>>> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
>>>>>> <file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4>;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is 
>>>>>> displayed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
>>>>>> are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and 
>>>>>> jars do differ.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:j...@jagunet.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> should do it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>>>>>>>> Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com <mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
>>>>>>>>>> Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>>>>>>   I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> can follow instruction
>>>>>>>>>>>   for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, 
>>>>>>>>>> based on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the 
>>>>>>>>>> current Mac operating system is a form of linux.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to 
>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
>>>>>>>>>> run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
>>>>>>>>>> finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
>>>>>>>>>> debugging.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later 
>>>>>>>>> and try to get more
>>>>>>>>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to 
>>>>>>>>> macOS High Sierra, which i
>>>>>>>>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
>>>>>>>> list member can assist.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> _________________________________
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Larry I. Gusaas
>>>>>>>>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>>>>>>>>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com <http://larry-gusaas.com/>
>>>>>>>>> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind 
>>>>>>>>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
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