Hi Pedro,

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Pedro Lino <pedro.l...@mailbox.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave, all
> 
>> (1) PMC members have a higher bar for their vote. I did not vote at all 
>> because I did not build from source etc.
> 
> I agree that it is good that some users replicate the building procedure and 
> confirm that it works.
> Replicability is a good measure of transparency and quality.
> In any case I couldn't find that particular requirement for a PMC member in 
> the voting page (https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html). Maybe that 
> is being too strict?
> 
>> (2) Would you name projects where you have felt discouraged? Have you felt 
>> discouraged here in past years?
> 
> This is the only Apache project I collaborate with (I have been collaborating 
> with several other FOSS projects for a long time). Actually just reading the 
> ASF rules discouraged me to become a committer (I was invited in the past) 
> and still does.
> 
>> We know everyone helping is needed. It was great to have a long standing 
>> member of the user community like Larry vote to alert us to a problem with 
>> macOS!
> 
> Agreed. That is why the "*and all others are either discouraged from voting 
> (to keep the noise down)*" is particularly unnecessary (if not offensive).

I just read the page and I agree it is discouraging. I am going to discuss with 
Community Development about changing the wording. (If that is the correct 
place.)

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
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