> On Jul 6, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 4:08 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Decisions and Behavior
>> 
>> On 7/6/2020 12:14 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>> ...
>>> My criticism concerned the PMC's approach in the present 
>> case. I would have simply wished for equal treatment of equal 
>> volunteer work, or some other justification (and I have 
>> explained what this justification could have been using the 
>> example of Günther).
>> 
>> I am strongly opposed to the PMC publicly justifying its 
>> committer and 
>> PMC decisions.
> 
> I asked for absolutely nothing of the sort! My reference to Günther, should 
> make clear what I meant.

Then why are you mentioning someone by name?

> 
>> There are several special cases in which doing to would be very 
>> damaging. If we usually published the background to our 
>> decisions, and 
>> refused to do so only in a few cases, people would assume one 
>> of those 
>> special cases applies.
>> 
>> I believe we should announce when we have invited a committer or PMC 
>> member and they have accepted, and otherwise keep personnel 
>> discussions 
>> private.
> 
> And I believe the maximum possible openness is what we should live in a free 
> project every day. This does not mean that there can't be reasons to discuss 
> certain things confidentially, but you should use this possibility with a 
> great sense of proportion.

Apache projects operate via the Apache Way. Part of the Apache Way is that 
discussion about people who may be invited to be committers and PMC members is 
ALWAYS private.

http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#confidential 
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#confidential>

Other private discussions include undisclosed security vulnerabilities and 
discussions like trademark infringements or approvals.

You might want to review:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles 
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles>

Regards,
Dave


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> greetings,
> Jörg
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