> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 6:32 PM > To: dev > Subject: Re: Decisions and Behavior > > > > > On Jul 6, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Jörg Schmidt > <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote: > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 4:08 PM > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Decisions and Behavior > >> > >> On 7/6/2020 12:14 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> ... > >>> My criticism concerned the PMC's approach in the present > >> case. I would have simply wished for equal treatment of equal > >> volunteer work, or some other justification (and I have > >> explained what this justification could have been using the > >> example of Günther). > >> > >> I am strongly opposed to the PMC publicly justifying its > >> committer and > >> PMC decisions. > > > > I asked for absolutely nothing of the sort! My reference to > Günther, should make clear what I meant. > > Then why are you mentioning someone by name?
I do not understand this question. With Günter it has been publicly discussed that we thought it would be appropriate to make him a committer so that he gets write permission. It wasn't a discussion about the work done, but Günter was new to us, wanted to help us and to do so he needed write permissions. > Apache projects operate via the Apache Way. Part of the > Apache Way is that discussion about people who may be invited > to be committers and PMC members is ALWAYS private. ABSOLUTELY clear and ABSOLUTELY undisputed by me! *Please*... let us clarify linguistic difficulties of understanding if necessary, but don't insinuate what I don't mean and what I didn't say. Please look at what I wrote to Michael: The right to discuss certain things in private is a necessity, but our goal is openness wherever possible. I think the difference between necessity and goal should be clear and it should hopefully also be clear that a necessity is nothing unimportant, nothing that is questioned by calling it verbally only "necessity". One thing I can tell you for sure: OpenOffice.org was also a free, open project, but at the ASF I learned that openness is even more important here. (And please: all that the above sentence means is that OOO has had considerably more non-public discussion than AOO - nothing else I want to say.) greetings, Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
